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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 07:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It seems that Greg Brooks Vs John Stuart sells a lot of newspapers around here.

As for my own take: For years I have been writing on this board. I have always been happy to do my own thing, and to contribute fairly to other posts. I do not need to sell this, as I hope my record, (and the search button) speaks for itself.

Yet, sometimes on occasion, I will contribute positively only to be shot down in flames by Greg. On other occasions, he has started (for no obvious reason) only what I can describe as hate mail to flame me for the fun of it.
How do you think this makes me feel?

I do NOT dislike the man. I do NOT know the man.
Each time he appears, HE begins the problems.
Each time a problem kicks-off, I extend an olive branch, which for some reason only infuriates him more, but I am damned if I will turn the other cheek, every time he kicks off at me.

If this was indeed a fight, I would like it noted, that I do not start them, nor do I attack. I do use self defence – as why should I allow him to continually strike at me? Perhaps a bigger man could walk away, but I am only flesh and blood after all. (Besides, I would be interested to see how other readers were to react if they to were continually provoked after trying to write positive informative replies).

There is NO queenzone rivalry, and there is not grudge or bad blood on my part. I do complain that I feel QPL are very amateurish for such a large company, but surely I am allowed the freedom to hold to that opinion?

This is not a whining ‘feel sorry for me mail’, rather my point is, do not believe that some fierce John S. Stuart vs. Greg Brooks rivalry exists – because it does not on my part. If this appears like spamming, I apologise, but I too am a guest in here, I feel comfortable here, and I too learn like everyone else. When Queenzone gets it right – it gets it right big time. So perhaps the way forward is simply for both of us to ignore each other

I personally feel that is a backward step for all I believe, but for my own sanity, (and the sake of others), it may be time to draw a line in the sand and say ‘enough is enough’.

(To Greg: I wish you well, I wish you continued success and happiness, and whatever you are really searching for, I hope you find it).



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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 08:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know I'm not even half as experienced you and maybe my opinion is worthless... But why do you waste your time arguing with him?

Every single person who has already read any of the arguments (except maybe for one or two dickheads) agree that GB is a big moron and deserves no respect.

Whenever he attacks you, you could just "defend" yourself, show your points proving he's wrong, and then stop posting replies when he starts the nonsense bullshit. He would look even more retarded provoking you so much and getting no reply.

But that's just my opinion, of course.


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 08:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Raffie is Right John, we respect you and we know the moron is Greg here :P


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 08:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I dislike taking sides here, especially when I don't know either of the people involved and I'm not in the "bootleg" world that this stuff all seems to revolve around. However, I do have to agree with the previous posts, John.
I don't know you, and I don't know Greg. I haven't followed anything you guys have gone back and forth about seriously. But I do know that in general, when a person wants to stir up trouble, it's fairly easy to do, especially in the world of "bootlegging" (which I don't pretend to understand).
There have been many fine debates on various threads here on QZ, some of which dealing with outside QZ issues I have been involved with. However, we've always kept the debates civil....no name calling or insulting, and no screaming through type. So, I'd like to consider myself a logical person.
Again, going back to the general argument, when someone wants to stir up trouble, it's easy to do. And as someone who is logical, it's very hard to ignore the troublemaker's various logical fallicies. You want to point them out, no to make yourself look superior but to help the troublemaker become a better person or at least a better logician. However, with people determined to cause a fight, no amount of logical reasoning will work, and your attempts to help them only add fuel to the fire.
I'm not saying you should completely ignore said troublemaker, but one time is enough to point out the fallacies involved. Anything after that is just ammo they use against you. It's better to just point out the fallacies, and walk away.
Let troublemakers rail against a wall all day long....they will accomplish nothing except making themselves look foolish. Eventually, if people learn to ignore them and not give them the attention they are trying to get so badly, they will leave. They may return at various times to try again, depending on their level of persistance, but all they will succeed in doing is looking foolish.
Any kind of "rivalries" going on here would do good to heed that advice, I think. You can't make everyone logical and civil, so when a "rivalry" begins to develop (or one side threatens to make one develop), point out the stupidity of said action, proclaim you will have no part of it, and walk away without looking back. You'll be the bigger person in the end, and everyone will know it.


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 09:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Don't waste your time John!

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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 09:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Any respectable QZer knows you are a beloved member here John. You have nothing to prove to us, we all love you. It is your right to be able to say what you want in reference to or in retaliation to GB. You can say whatever you feel is the right thing to say or say nothing at all to him and at the end of the day, you'll still be an esteemed member of QZ. I am extremely thankful and grateful for the multitude of information you've shared on this website and I trust the source. No one will ever be able to convince me different of that. So if you're worried that something GB says might discredit you with me, no worries. I can't speak for the whole of QZ but this is how I feel. I've been a member here for almost 4 years and if you are an observant person (I like to think I am), you realize who the experts are and who the experts are not. You also see who is reliable and who is not.

So no need to give him anymore attention in my opinion, but you do what you feel is the right thing for you. Thank you for everything you do for QZ.

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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 11:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lisser wrote:

Any respectable QZer knows you are a beloved member here John. You have nothing to prove to us, we all love you. It is your right to be able to say what you want in reference to or in retaliation to GB. You can say whatever you feel is the right thing to say or say nothing at all to him and at the end of the day, you'll still be an esteemed member of QZ. I am extremely thankful and grateful for the multitude of information you've shared on this website and I trust the source. No one will ever be able to convince me different of that. So if you're worried that something GB says might discredit you with me, no worries. I can't speak for the whole of QZ but this is how I feel. I've been a member here for almost 4 years and if you are an observant person (I like to think I am), you realize who the experts are and who the experts are not. You also see who is reliable and who is not.

So no need to give him anymore attention in my opinion, but you do what you feel is the right thing for you. Thank you for everything you do for QZ.

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