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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 09:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would like to know:do these shows exist on video?
1)Tokyo 1/5/1975
2)Forth Worth 10/12/1977
3)Alexandra palace 22/12/1979
4)Brussels 24/8/1984
5)Vienna 13/5/1982

When you read the 'Queen live' book you get the impression these shows were filmed. Is this the case?A simple question for the author.


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 10:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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4)Brussels 24/8/1984
Yes it exists on the bootleg market

QUOTE]Is it a good recording , from a professional source?


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 10:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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<font type="verdana">_Tatterdemalion_ wrote:






4)Brussels 24/8/1984
Yes it exists on the bootleg market

QUOTE]Is it a good recording , from a professional source?


That is false information. It does NOT exist on the bootleg market, all that is available is a short fragment of TYMD shot and broadcast by the Belgium TV. . On the other hand , again we have no information how much outtake footage exist from the shoot of Hammer to Fall video - done in Brussels.

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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 10:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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on my way up wrote:

<font type="verdana">_Tatterdemalion_ wrote:






4)Brussels 24/8/1984
Yes it exists on the bootleg market

QUOTE]Is it a good recording , from a professional source?


That is false information. It does NOT exist on the bootleg market, all that is available is a short fragment of TYMD shot and broadcast by the Belgium TV. . On the other hand , again we have no information how much outtake footage exist from the shoot of Hammer to Fall video - done in Brussels.
This concert happened in my country and it was a great show with freddie in top-shape. Greg writes in his book:This show was filmed for the promotional ...If you read that , you can conclude that that show was filmed , in my opinion. I watched the HTF clip very closely and there was certainly a camera high up in the back of the hall. There was also a camera behind roger. It would be stupid to bring in camera's and then only film some shots from the audience. Maybe there were camera's that recorded the actual show.I hope so, would be great on a rarities set(if that ever happens


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 10:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thats exactly what i am saying.

1/ no bootleg available, except 1 minute local TV.
2/ we dont know how much of the concert was recorded officially and whether the footage survives

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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 11:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"I'm not the archivist but I hope this information helps

1)Tokyo 1/5/1975
TV broadcast: Now I'm Here, Killer Queen and In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited is on the bootleg market."

My version also has modern times rock'n'roll and son and daughter.


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 12:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I thought the HTF shoot was done after the actual show the day after....


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 14:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was there on August 24, 1984, and Freddie invited the crowd to come back the next day, for HTF video shoot (couldn't go... arghhhhhhhhh).
And, yes, there seems to be a clip from TYMD...I'd really love to have that one ! Has anyone seen it before available for download ?

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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 15:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

nationofhaircuts44 wrote:

"I'm not the archivist but I hope this information helps

1)Tokyo 1/5/1975
TV broadcast: Now I'm Here, Killer Queen and In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited is on the bootleg market."

My version also has modern times rock'n'roll and son and daughter.



It's from Rainbow 31.03.1974



I didnt think modern times r and r was on rainbow 31/3/74.


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 15:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ignore me im getting confused (cue - who said that)

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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 22:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font type="verdana">_Tatterdemalion_ wrote:

I'm not the archivist but I hope this information helps

3)Alexandra palace 22/12/1979
Look at the Save Me video and there you have it.


I thought this was filmed at the Rainbow. Brian and Roger talk about on the DVD commentary that the director fell into the orchestra pit in front of the stage. One of them, I forget which it is, says it's the same one Frank Zappa fell into, and THAT was definitely the Rainbow.


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Posted: 03 Sep 06, 22:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry Tat but Alexandra Palace was not filmed. A film crew was there earlier in the day to film "live type" shots (i.e. with the stage and lights) for the Save Me video. The actual gig was not filmed. There are some "You Tube" clips saying they are Ally Pally but they are in fact Hammersmith Odeon a few days later. I was at Ally Pally and, knowing how these things are filmed - especially in 1979, I can promise you that no cameras were, or could have been (due to space restraints) there. I wish they had been. It would be the best souvenier.

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 03:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


It became blatantly obvious over the last years that Greg is NOT ALLOWED to leak any information about what is in the archive and what is not. Why do you keep on asking questions then? He is not going to answer.

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 08:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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"I'm not the archivist but I hope this information helps

1)Tokyo 1/5/1975
TV broadcast: Now I'm Here, Killer Queen and In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited is on the bootleg market."

My version also has modern times rock'n'roll and son and daughter.



It's from Rainbow 31.03.1974



I didnt think modern times r and r was on rainbow 31/3/74.


It's one of the two songs that were filmed (Son and Daughter was the other one). There were three nights from two different tours filmed at the Rainbow. I think you are confusing the March date with the November dates which were filmed for the official video.

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 19:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font type="verdana">_Tatterdemalion_ wrote:

1)Tokyo 1/5/1975
TV broadcast: Now I'm Here, Killer Queen and In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited is on the bootleg market.


There are rumours that the whole show was filmed, and to me it would make sense. Why would they film three songs at three different points of the show? If only a few songs were filmed for TV, then they would film three consecutive songs, and that would be it.

5)Vienna 13/5/1982
I think this is a mistake by Greg, he surely meant 12/5/1982 and you can find the end of the concert on Queen On Fire Live At The Bowl. Flash and The Hero was broadcasted on TV along with the QOFLATB footage.


Flash and The Hero along with TYMD are from Frankfurt 4-28-82, not Vienna.

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I was there on August 24, 1984, and Freddie invited the crowd to come back the next day, for HTF video shoot (couldn't go... arghhhhhhhhh).
And, yes, there seems to be a clip from TYMD...I'd really love to have that one ! Has anyone seen it before available for download ?


When during the concert did Freddie invite everyone? I have the bootleg, and before Hammer To Fall, he mentions the video being filmed - but there is no invitation. Of course, this exact part could be cut from the bootleg, but there is no audible cut...

Any help?



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Posted: 05 Sep 06, 16:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes he did.

I'm not very good at english, but as far as I can remember, he told us that may be one day, we could see ourselves in the video.

I have my own bootleg of this show, on a simple tape. I have to record it on my PC, and maybe one day I will upload that bit.

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Posted: 05 Sep 06, 18:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I also heard that Freddie invited the fans back the next day. It's on my bootleg. So he's right Bob


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Posted: 05 Sep 06, 20:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Answers to some of the above...

Yes. Yes. No. Possibly. I think so. Kind of, but not exactly. No. No. Definitely YES. Maybe. Don't be so silly. Yes. Never.

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Posted: 05 Sep 06, 20:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you dont honestly expect an answer from fat lad do you? my god you might as well wait for john lennon to be re incarnated.



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Posted: 06 Sep 06, 13:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

smilesmile wrote:

Yes he did.

I'm not very good at english, but as far as I can remember, he told us that may be one day, we could see ourselves in the video.


Right, that part is on my bootleg. But that's not an invitation. That sounds like they were filming it during the concert.

Niek, what are Freddie's exact words on your bootleg? I have three versions of the Brussels tape, and none of them have a formal invitation.


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