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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 09:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

« Jay » wrote:

What I don't understand is why every interesting thread turns into a huge discussion or even a fight when it reaches two pages or more. Seriously what is up with that? We should be working together and share information. Not endlessly argue with each other. Call me naive if you must but this place would be a lot more fun if everybody would accept and respect each other for who they are and left their personal issues behind them.



Jay... there are MANY people here on MoanZone, and FEW and an ever dwindling number of genuine people, who really care about getting at serious Queen and related issues.

Sadly, you will always find that decent honest and reasonable questions and threads get sabotaged or hijacked by a series of morons intent upon spoiling it for everyone. That is the nature of these kinds of forum sites. It cannot be avoided. You have young idiots, utter morons and spanners (as we call them here) that have nothing constructive to contribute, no knowledge or experience, and can only offer something stupid, untrelated, insulting, banaal, predictable. There are MANY of them, and they even piss off other QZ-ers. But STILL they are here!!!!!

STILL THEY ARE TOLERATED. GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY.

You will soon see comments added to this point of mine, now, that will endorse the point. Some of them seem to be 9 or 10 years old. Is that feasible? I guess it must be. And even those in their late teens and 20s seem as mad as march hares. Some are the kind of people you would serious avoid if you saw them on the street. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about on this issue. Some are genuinely 'dangerous' individuals with what's going on inside their heads. You can determine this easily enough by some threads on this site, as you know.

This is the nature of these sites. I'm aware of that. That's why most people who want serious debate and whom want to get at the real essence of interesting Queen issues, do so in private email without the risk of dickheads interrupting and getting in the way just because they can. Sad, isn't it.

There is some great stuff here on QZ, which I read, and sometimes follow up on, or which I direct certain people within the Queen circle towards. BUT it is littered with so much pollution and unrelated trash and stupidity from people who know nothing, that most of the main people I direct to things, get bored very quickly and leave. Is this what you want?

I think it would be great if there was some efficient and ruthless way of filtering away those who seek only to sabotage, hijact, corrupt and generally fuck up what could otherwise be a forum/site with an unusual and enviable reputation. This is, as far as I can see, the main reason that a lot of key people avoid this site.

It COULD be very different. At the moment QZ's reputation is far from enviable. Of course there will be those to disagree with this, but those people would argue with ANYTHING at all, just for the sake of it. But you know what I mean.

If QueenZone were a high street shop, many of the people who come in and abuse it, who try to pollute and break it, would surely be thrown out - some with a good and well-earned smack round the ear as they were ejected. But here on QZ, ANY nasty sod can say what he/she likes - to disrupt good conversation and block proper progress, to the huge detriment of it all. It's so tedious and, I think, unnecessary.

There seems to be NO policing, no care, no monitoring of this sight. Imagine if you tried to run a shop or office company that way!

Why can't there be some sensible filtering of those who use and abuse this site? Ok, I might get thrown off too, as too might the mean and moody Poppy (who said she made a 13-years old QZ-er cry and bugger off), but that might not be a bad thing.

I for one would certainly sacrifice myself and my extremely amusing and entertaining presence, and my genius comments and huge wit, fro


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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 09:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Firstly, you have posted this in the wrong forum. (Try personal)

Secondly, Why you insist on starting 2 topics a day full of your inane rantings, god only knows. You maintain you don't like this site and yet you just can't stay away..

Thirdly, Greg, please don't put words in my mouth. I never said that I made a Queenzoner cry, I'm not that heartless.

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 10:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's ANGST, you idiot. Buy a dictionary.
And you wasted space.
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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 10:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You're the biggest spammer on this board Greg.
Piss off.


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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 10:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh I know for sure that this board has a biG proBlem.

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 11:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greg

As I understand it Richards concept for the site is one of 'free speech' which rightly or wrongly he sticks to. Unfortunately life is not as simple as you would like it to be, and much like life on Queenzone you can't filter out the numpties that populate the Internet. On a few occasions I would support more moderation than is here at present, but only when it comes to things like trying to con money from kids etc, free speech is what makes the internet so powerful, sadly you have to wade through pages of idiots to get to the really intelligent comments but it's worth it, otherwise we end up with someone else's choice for freedom which usually as history tells us, is not one we would all agree with.

I do however take one thing you say with a large ? Queenzones reputation, what reputation? other than folks on QOL nobody else knows it's here, so what are you talking about? just because you and two or three friends like to bash the site doesn't mean it has a reputation.

Most people on QOL visit here and we go there, one is heavily moderated one isn't, the reputation you speak of is between a handful of people, hardly something to get worried about.

I do applaud your more helpful and polite return to the site, recent posts have been much more positive and far less bitchy, you may even find people warming to you and helping you if you continue to join the spirit of the site, however, I am a little unsettled by your recent fascination with Poppy, which frankly is a little disturbing given your age difference. Fortunately I think she is more than capable of looking after herself, but to the casual observer you recent comments do make the flesh crawl a little, so keep that in mind, I think it serve to alienate people against you here again.




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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 12:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In that case you'd be the first one sent into internet oblivion:

> there are MANY people here on MoanZone

So without you it's not a big loss. Fuck off.

> and FEW and an ever dwindling number of genuine people

You excluded, fuck off.

> you will always find that decent honest and reasonable questions and threads get sabotaged or hijacked by a series of morons intent upon spoiling it for everyone.

Starting with you, fuck off.

> You have young idiots

And a bigger old idiot: you. Fuck off.

> no knowledge

Especially you. Fuck off.

> But STILL they are here!!!!!

Starting with you. Fuck off.

> STILL THEY ARE TOLERATED. GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY.

Because people here have been so kind, instead of telling you to fuck off. But I'm not that nice, so I tell you again: fuck off.

> Some of them seem to be 9 or 10 years old.

And yet 9 or 10 light years beyond you in terms of knowledge, manners and productivity. Fuck off.

> Believe me, I know what I'm talking about

You knowing what you're talking about is entirely laughable. Fuck off.

> most of the main people I direct to things, get bored very quickly and leave.

Yes that's sad, but we can live without them. Fuck off.

> I think it would be great if there was some efficient and ruthless way of filtering away those who seek only to sabotage, hijact, corrupt and generally fuck up what could otherwise be a forum/site with an unusual and enviable reputation.

And that's how you'd be the first one banned. Fuck off.

> It COULD be very different.

Without you, surely. Fuck off.

> At the moment QZ's reputation is far from enviable.

QZ, with all it's negative features, is in many ways the best source of info regarding this band. Much much much much much better than your "Freddie sang all the verses in Who Wants To Live Forever / Queen played 'Mull' in May 1977 / Crystal was Freddie's roadie / John didn't play bass in the Barcelona album" senseless answers or comments. Fuck off.

> But here on QZ, ANY nasty sod can say what he/she likes

Starting with you. Fuck off.

> It's so tedious and, I think, unnecessary.

Yes, then: fuck off.

> Imagine if you tried to run a shop or office company that way!

The cunt who wrote a book with more mistakes than words and who has said some of the most stupid things about the band he's allegedly an expert about is coming here to advise us how to run something? That's laughable. Fuck off.

> Why can't there be some sensible filtering of those who use and abuse this site?

Coming here, insulting some of our celebrities, referring to QZ as Moan Zone, writing in capitals ... that's abusing. Then: fuck off.

> I might get thrown off too

Finally your only neuron worked!: fuck off.

> but that might not be a bad thing.

Surely not. Fuck off.

> I for one would certainly sacrifice myself and my extremely amusing and entertaining presence, and my genius comments and huge wit, from this site

Then do it: fuck off.

> I can't spell

And you can't think or be nice either. Fuck off.

> I'm just giving you a 'for instance'.

For instance, you could ... I forgot what I was going to say... Oh yes: fuck off!

> I mean only the abusive people that insult and never offer anything remotely useful or knowledgeable.

That'd be you. Fuck off.

> QZ has massively deteriorated.

Since you came here. Fuck off.

All in all, nice post Greg. Fuck off.


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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 12:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Poppy, you have a sense of humour bypass at the moment. But anyway....

Pop: Firstly, you have posted this in the wrong forum. (Try personal)

GB: Who cares? Does that matter one tiny iota in the scheme of things. Is this miniscule point an issue in your world.

Pop: Secondly, Why you insist on starting 2 topics a day full of your inane rantings, god only knows.

GB: I have builders in my house at the moment, until Sept 16, and cannot get in my office - just my laptop. I was bored. I was very very bored. So, I came onto QZ and rubbed you up the wrong way because, for reasons best known to yourself, you are uptight and lacking a sense of humour just now. This may be uncharacteristic for you, it may not. This is just a bit of fun. Don't take things so seriously. Who realy gives a bugger which part of QZ a thing sits in - other than you?

Pop: You maintain you don't like this site and yet you just can't stay away..

GB: Not quite correct. I maintain that I don't like PARTS of this site, and certain faceless individuals who hide behind their bogus identities, while people like John Stuart and I are totally up-front, open and honest. I further maintain that people without a sense of humour are to be treated with kid gloves. I think someone other than me, as well as me, has upset you, and this site is your outlet. Make of that whatever you like. You over-react to the tiniest point, when you could instead be calm and take it, and me, and my rantings, in your stride.

Frankly, today and yesterday it was QZ or clearing out my shed! And I'm scared of big spiders. Hence, would rather come here and spout off some rubbish - as well as my normal flashes of brilliance and genius.

Stay calm. I can feel your heartrate increasing. It was a JOKE for goodness sake.

If my words upset your teenage sensitivities, don't read my rantings, ignore them, and me, and do something more constructive with your time. Why are you wasting time reading crap by me anyway? You have other more important things to do, like study, surely.

Pop: Thirdly, Greg, please don't put words in my mouth. I never said that I made a Queenzoner cry, I'm not that heartless

GB: Oh dear! I got the pedantic details wrong, and that was enough to get your back up. You must be huge fun to be around at the moment. Chill out, Poppy. Have fun on this site. I do.

Now then... put some words in my mouth. I don't give a sod. Say what you like about me, but i do have a sense of humour.

Lastly: It's 'angst', not anx or anxt. Thanks for that, whoever offered it. My spelling's not good, is it? Don't be cruel and heartless with me. Have pity instead.

Can anyone tell me how to spell that legal word which sounds like SEPINA, but which actually begins suph??????? I can't find it in my dictionery.

Poppy, we don't get along very well, do we? Never mind, aye!Think yourself lucky we are not neighbours. Can you imagine? Now then... don't be so uppity. It's like Rob Bryson (sp ??) says: "It's just a bit of fun!"

Say something nice and without scorn. Go on.....






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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 12:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This just like a big Family, everyday fighting for stupid things (sometimes very rude), but they love each other and need to keep on being together. it´s funny and sad at the same time.
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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 12:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Let's all together call for BPP! He is a police officer... We need in his help...

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 13:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Damn, behave people!!!!!
I don`t like this fuck off thing nor the bad language. Too bad some people have to behave like this.

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 14:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To Togg,

You write a good deal of sence. I can tell you are an older chap - not a kid, I mean. While you make good logic sense, you do also have a nasty part to your thread which is inappropriate, and wide of the mark. I would say offensive too, but that wouldn't bother you I guess.

You say...

however, I am a little unsettled by your recent fascination with Poppy, which frankly is a little disturbing given your age difference.

GB: This is only in your head, Togg. What a creepy thing for you to say. That is just YOUR perception. My dialogue with Poppy was not remotely what you imply. That you chose to take it that way, says something about your outlook - it says more about you than it does me. What I said to Poppy was friendly and without any agenda. Most people took it that way, but you and a couple of others did not. Poppy DID NOT take it in a sinister way, only people like you did. You are synical and have a low opinion of people. You saw something sinister where there was nothing like that to see. Shame on you. I pity you for seeing something dark when there was nothing to see.

Togg: to the casual observer you recent comments do make the flesh crawl a little, so keep that in mind, I think it serve to alienate people against you here again.

GB: I'm not looking for an argument with you Togg, but when people find horrible agendas among things which are innocent, I feel sick in my stomach. I feel sorry for you that your mind works that way - to make such a connection.

Perhaps it is YOU that has a problem in that area - I mean, that in order to make such a connection your mind must work in a particular, pecular, way. It must do, because I for one never ever made the connection you did.

That kind of comment, Togg, is really ugly, and not in keeping with an intelligent person as you seem to be.

Stop thinking that way. Stop adding 2 + 2 and reaching 6. See the innocence in things, not the ugliness that doesn't exist.



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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 14:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

*nonsense forum nomination*

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 15:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 15:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's "subpoena", Greg. As in "the old mentally unstable geezer who sucked up to an underage girl on an internet forum was supoena'd".

Hope that helps!

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 15:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Poppy, you have a sense of humour bypass at the moment. But anyway....

Pop: Firstly, you have posted this in the wrong forum. (Try personal)

GB: Who cares? Does that matter one tiny iota in the scheme of things. Is this miniscule point an issue in your world.

Pop: Secondly, Why you insist on starting 2 topics a day full of your inane rantings, god only knows.

GB: I have builders in my house at the moment, until Sept 16, and cannot get in my office - just my laptop. I was bored. I was very very bored. So, I came onto QZ and rubbed you up the wrong way because, for reasons best known to yourself, you are uptight and lacking a sense of humour just now. This may be uncharacteristic for you, it may not. This is just a bit of fun. Don't take things so seriously. Who realy gives a bugger which part of QZ a thing sits in - other than you?

Pop: You maintain you don't like this site and yet you just can't stay away..

GB: Not quite correct. I maintain that I don't like PARTS of this site, and certain faceless individuals who hide behind their bogus identities, while people like John Stuart and I are totally up-front, open and honest. I further maintain that people without a sense of humour are to be treated with kid gloves. I think someone other than me, as well as me, has upset you, and this site is your outlet. Make of that whatever you like. You over-react to the tiniest point, when you could instead be calm and take it, and me, and my rantings, in your stride.

Frankly, today and yesterday it was QZ or clearing out my shed! And I'm scared of big spiders. Hence, would rather come here and spout off some rubbish - as well as my normal flashes of brilliance and genius.

Stay calm. I can feel your heartrate increasing. It was a JOKE for goodness sake.

If my words upset your teenage sensitivities, don't read my rantings, ignore them, and me, and do something more constructive with your time. Why are you wasting time reading crap by me anyway? You have other more important things to do, like study, surely.

Pop: Thirdly, Greg, please don't put words in my mouth. I never said that I made a Queenzoner cry, I'm not that heartless

GB: Oh dear! I got the pedantic details wrong, and that was enough to get your back up. You must be huge fun to be around at the moment. Chill out, Poppy. Have fun on this site. I do.

Now then... put some words in my mouth. I don't give a sod. Say what you like about me, but i do have a sense of humour.

Lastly: It's 'angst', not anx or anxt. Thanks for that, whoever offered it. My spelling's not good, is it? Don't be cruel and heartless with me. Have pity instead.

Can anyone tell me how to spell that legal word which sounds like SEPINA, but which actually begins suph??????? I can't find it in my dictionery.

Poppy, we don't get along very well, do we? Never mind, aye!Think yourself lucky we are not neighbours. Can you imagine? Now then... don't be so uppity. It's like Rob Bryson (sp ??) says: "It's just a bit of fun!"

Say something nice and without scorn. Go on.....


I'm not uppity, I just find you incredibly boring.
Now, Greg, as fun as it may be for you winding up 17 year olds, please give it a rest.

(Well done for working out how to 'Quote' though.)

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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 17:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greg, if you are bored, go find something to do other than call us Moanzone and other ignorant names. Not everyone here is what you say. I have nothing against you except for the way that you come here and try to intimidate people, but these actions of yours are going to catch up with you one day and you will then relize that you have accomplished absolutley nothing. Me and you had our 1 spat, we quickly said 'sorry' in our own ways, why can't this be done here with 90% of your spats? You are an adult, i think you and everyone here knows that, you are the Queen Archivist, you and everyone here knows that also. Now, your username (if you intend it to be or not) is an affiliation to Queen, and if you are going to use your 'title' as your username, PLEASE use some decorum and change your 1 track mind towards Queenzoners, yes it is called Queenzone, NOT Moanzone as you wish to call it. You came back with some calm and intelligent posts, but it seems you get pissed off to easy Greg. As i stated, you are an adult, if someone says "Fuck you Greg" IGNORE it! Or at least don't give them the time or the day to argue with you for 10 pages! As for John Stuart, Greg, what do you have against him? I agree that repeating his posts everywhere is not exacly mature, but i do see the same thing with you as well. Don't take this to heart Greg, i can get along with almost anyone, especially on the internet, it's easy, if you don't like it, ignore it! I honestly do not think that you have set out to come to Queenzone to call us names and insult us. I beleive that you do have some resourceful information to share with us about Queen, but you are the only person who can calm yourself down and possibly answer legit questions and comments. I know there are some childish people here, but Greg this is the same in the real world! How do you handle people like this in real life? Do you insult them? No i don't think you do. SO please Greg for the love of Queen, stop insulting us, and be someone who can cope with the fact that not everyone thinks the same way as you and agrees with you.


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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 18:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree Greg. A filtering system would be a great idea.

How about one that blocks people who are overweight, sport a dodgy goatee, have a penchant for young ladies beginning with P and who have the negotiating skills of a donkey.

WHY do you come here?


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Posted: 04 Sep 06, 19:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

YEAH LETS GET RID OF THE FAT PONCE WHO SPAMS THIS BOARD EVERY SIX MONTHS OR SO GREG PROOPS (I THINK HES KNOWN BY) WHO UNLIKE THE LOTS OF PEOPLE HAS A SAD LACK OF SELF CONFIDENCE IT COMES FROM BEING A FAT KID YOU KNOW GREG THEN AS THE YEARS GO BY..A FAT ADULT AND A FAT WIFE NO DOUBT.
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Posted: 05 Sep 06, 03:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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To Togg,

You write a good deal of sence. I can tell you are an older chap - not a kid, I mean. While you make good logic sense, you do also have a nasty part to your thread which is inappropriate, and wide of the mark. I would say offensive too, but that wouldn't bother you I guess.

You say...

however, I am a little unsettled by your recent fascination with Poppy, which frankly is a little disturbing given your age difference.

GB: This is only in your head, Togg. What a creepy thing for you to say. That is just YOUR perception. My dialogue with Poppy was not remotely what you imply. That you chose to take it that way, says something about your outlook - it says more about you than it does me. What I said to Poppy was friendly and without any agenda. Most people took it that way, but you and a couple of others did not. Poppy DID NOT take it in a sinister way, only people like you did. You are synical and have a low opinion of people. You saw something sinister where there was nothing like that to see. Shame on you. I pity you for seeing something dark when there was nothing to see.

Togg: to the casual observer you recent comments do make the flesh crawl a little, so keep that in mind, I think it serve to alienate people against you here again.

GB: I'm not looking for an argument with you Togg, but when people find horrible agendas among things which are innocent, I feel sick in my stomach. I feel sorry for you that your mind works that way - to make such a connection.

Perhaps it is YOU that has a problem in that area - I mean, that in order to make such a connection your mind must work in a particular, pecular, way. It must do, because I for one never ever made the connection you did.

That kind of comment, Togg, is really ugly, and not in keeping with an intelligent person as you seem to be.

Stop thinking that way. Stop adding 2 + 2 and reaching 6. See the innocence in things, not the ugliness that doesn't exist.


Well if you read back you will see I am far from alone in coming to this conclusion, so I don't feel too ashamed of myself!

But a whole thread about her, lots of sudden attention, you write to her in just about every topic...come on... too much time looking at her profile I think.

However, if as you say it is purely innocent than we must give the benefit and all that, but in my view it's better to be made aware you are acting in a rather unsavoury fashion and allow you the chance to adjust your comments, I'd far rather be wrong and be accused of being overly sensitive or (sick) as you say, than be proved right!

Moving on to another matter, things were going so well and then you once again jumped on your old band wagon of John S Stuart bashing again, isn't it time you dropped this, I think we all know your views on him, so do we have to be reminded every time you post?




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