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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 06:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I just brought Queen's II album, and let me tell you guys, its taking a while to really grow on me, even longer than Queen's debut album, mostly because its really hard for me to understand. I just brought Sheer Heart Attack, and its a lot easier for me to understand, seems more fun VS Queen II, which seems a lot deeper!

The song that is the toughest for me to understand is probably the March of the Black Queen song. I've read the lyrics over and over again, and I still dont understand it. And I really am trying to understand why was the words 'Nigger-sugar' used in the song, why the use for the racial slur??

I know that its hard to interrupt songs, when you didnt write the lyrics, but can someone please help me to understand what Freddie was talking about?


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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 07:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=Aqua>Retro<font color=1>Love wrote:

I just brought Queen's II album, and let me tell you guys, its taking a while to really grow on me, even longer than Queen's debut album, mostly because its really hard for me to understand. I just brought Sheer Heart Attack, and its a lot easier for me to understand, seems more fun VS Queen II, which seems a lot deeper!

The song that is the toughest for me to understand is probably the March of the Black Queen song. I've read the lyrics over and over again, and I still dont understand it. And I really am trying to understand why was the words 'Nigger-sugar' used in the song, why the use for the racial slur??

I know that its hard to interrupt songs, when you didnt write the lyrics, but can someone please help me to understand what Freddie was talking about?


'fraid Freddie was trying to be "poetic" the term "Nigger" as you know was the term used to describe "Blacks" and "Black" was described as dark/evil/mystical, so in return its as if Freddie ment a little bit of mystical sugar or whatever. Hope this helps

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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 07:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

nigger sugar is brown sugar. It's a normal word.



The song is about a fat black woman who works in a bakery. She makes cakes and pie's for the costumers.




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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 07:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's about thrush.


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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 09:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Read the lyrics

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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 10:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brown Sugar = heroine

Ask Mick and Keith!

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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 10:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

nigger sugar is brown sugar. It's a normal word.



The song is about a fat black woman who works in a bakery. She makes cakes and pie's for the costumers.


HAHAHAHAAAA!!!! :DD
I fell off my chair when I read that :P


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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 11:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's not a joke. I'm serious!
The lyrics say it all!!



"Here comes the Black Queen poking in the pile"

the black queen is ofcourse an african woman who is searching through her stock of ingredients. To find what she needs for her pie.


"Little nigger sugar then a rub-a-dub-a-baby oil"

nigger-sugar and oil. These are ingredients for her pies/cakes.


"Now I've got a belly full"

The costumers who buy her pie's have eaten it all. And now their bellies are full.


"You can be my sugar baby
You can be my honey chile"

Sugar... honey... both ingredients.


"Remember to deliver with the speed of light"
Here the 'black queen' says to her delivery boy to bring the pie to the costumer as quick as possible.


"My life is in your hands I'll fo and I'll fie
I'll be what you make me I'll do what you like "

The black queen also makes pie's people would like to have. You can give her all kinds of wishes. Carrotpie, Papayapie, Mangopie. Everything you want.. and she will make it.



"The Black Queen tattoos all her pies
She boils and she bakes"

She puts a stamp on the pie which has the logo of her bakery.
Boiling and baking ofcourse refers to making cakes and pies.






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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 11:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In my opinion Niek's interpretation is probably way more closer to the truth than anything else brought up in this forum or elsewhere.

I wonder if artists who've written some supposedly "mystical" lyrics ever read any of the "song meanings"-type of pages and wet themselves from laughing too much...





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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 12:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And you call that a "Serious Discussion"?!

Ah yes, if you compare it to all that Greg Brooks stuff ...


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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 13:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This song belongs to a school called 'Stream of consciousness'.

You can read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_consciousness

www.bartleby.com/65/st/streamco.html

www.tnellen.com/cybereng/lit_terms/stream.html

or, you could always punch 'Stream of consciousness' into Google.


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<font color=Aqua>Retro<font color=1>Love wrote:

its taking a while to really grow on me, even longer than Queen's debut album, mostly because its really hard for me to understand.



one thing i have never really done is felt the need to "understand" an album...unless we are talking about acctually undertand what they are saying, not what they mean.

i just like to enjoy the album...granted it can take a while for an album to "grow" on me also, but i say just kick back and relax and let the music take you away. if the meaning isnt obvious, its probly not supposed ot be.

i like to come up with my own meanings, and i think alot of artist, queen included dont always tell you the meaning of the song so it can mean somthing differant for everyone

either way its a great album, and you made a very good desicion in buying it


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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i think he had been smoking some decent stuff when he wrote....all those pie's...munchies mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm can i have one or two......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lol

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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 20:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

nigger sugar is brown sugar. It's a normal word.



The song is about a fat black woman who works in a bakery. She makes cakes and pie's for the costumers.



I found that offensive, being that I am a Southerner and am tired of all this crap that gets thrown around. Grow up, bigot.


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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 21:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

It's not a joke. I'm serious!
The lyrics say it all!!



"Here comes the Black Queen poking in the pile"

the black queen is ofcourse an african woman who is searching through her stock of ingredients. To find what she needs for her pie.


"Little nigger sugar then a rub-a-dub-a-baby oil"

nigger-sugar and oil. These are ingredients for her pies/cakes.


"Now I've got a belly full"

The costumers who buy her pie's have eaten it all. And now their bellies are full.


"You can be my sugar baby
You can be my honey chile"

Sugar... honey... both ingredients.


"Remember to deliver with the speed of light"
Here the 'black queen' says to her delivery boy to bring the pie to the costumer as quick as possible.


"My life is in your hands I'll fo and I'll fie
I'll be what you make me I'll do what you like "

The black queen also makes pie's people would like to have. You can give her all kinds of wishes. Carrotpie, Papayapie, Mangopie. Everything you want.. and she will make it.



"The Black Queen tattoos all her pies
She boils and she bakes"

She puts a stamp on the pie which has the logo of her bakery.
Boiling and baking ofcourse refers to making cakes and pies.




Ahh if you had said that yesterday when I really needed a good laugh xD


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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 22:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why do you feel the need to "understand"? Just listen to the music... :D If you DO figure out what you think the song may be about, though, that's nice! But if you don't, no sweat. It's still the same.

And the "nigger sugar".. I always thought he was merely referring to brown sugar. I myself think it sounds poetic and suits the feel of the song. I'm sure Freddie would never include a racial slur in any of his songs.


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Posted: 12 Sep 06, 22:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it might be about a chess game...but who knows, that what was so great about Freddie's early songs. Some of them were just SO out there for a non-psychadelic rock band. Definetely some Led Zep influence in the lyrical work.


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Posted: 13 Sep 06, 00:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

It's not a joke. I'm serious!
The lyrics say it all!!



"Here comes the Black Queen poking in the pile"

the black queen is ofcourse an african woman who is searching through her stock of ingredients. To find what she needs for her pie.


"Little nigger sugar then a rub-a-dub-a-baby oil"

nigger-sugar and oil. These are ingredients for her pies/cakes.


"Now I've got a belly full"

The costumers who buy her pie's have eaten it all. And now their bellies are full.


"You can be my sugar baby
You can be my honey chile"

Sugar... honey... both ingredients.


"Remember to deliver with the speed of light"
Here the 'black queen' says to her delivery boy to bring the pie to the costumer as quick as possible.


"My life is in your hands I'll fo and I'll fie
I'll be what you make me I'll do what you like "

The black queen also makes pie's people would like to have. You can give her all kinds of wishes. Carrotpie, Papayapie, Mangopie. Everything you want.. and she will make it.



"The Black Queen tattoos all her pies
She boils and she bakes"

She puts a stamp on the pie which has the logo of her bakery.
Boiling and baking ofcourse refers to making cakes and pies.





What the devil???

I highly doubt that is what the song is about, and if it was or is, thats VERY offensive and sterotypical, especially towards me, since I am black and a female...but I really hope that Freddie wasnt being offensive...brb




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<font color=336600>ChinesedogTorture wrote:

Why do you feel the need to "understand"? Just listen to the music... :D If you DO figure out what you think the song may be about, though, that's nice! But if you don't, no sweat. It's still the same.

And the "nigger sugar".. I always thought he was merely referring to brown sugar. I myself think it sounds poetic and suits the feel of the song. I'm sure Freddie would never include a racial slur in any of his songs.



I dont know Chinese, I usually dont feel the need to 'understand' songs, but this song was so freakin tough to interrupt...I just feel the need to...I dunno, thats just me :)

I do the second track on the Queen II album: Father to Son....thats a very nice song!!!


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Posted: 13 Sep 06, 04:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

It's not a joke. I'm serious!
The lyrics say it all!!



"Here comes the Black Queen poking in the pile"

the black queen is ofcourse an african woman who is searching through her stock of ingredients. To find what she needs for her pie.


"Little nigger sugar then a rub-a-dub-a-baby oil"

nigger-sugar and oil. These are ingredients for her pies/cakes.


"Now I've got a belly full"

The costumers who buy her pie's have eaten it all. And now their bellies are full.


"You can be my sugar baby
You can be my honey chile"

Sugar... honey... both ingredients.


"Remember to deliver with the speed of light"
Here the 'black queen' says to her delivery boy to bring the pie to the costumer as quick as possible.


"My life is in your hands I'll fo and I'll fie
I'll be what you make me I'll do what you like "

The black queen also makes pie's people would like to have. You can give her all kinds of wishes. Carrotpie, Papayapie, Mangopie. Everything you want.. and she will make it.



"The Black Queen tattoos all her pies
She boils and she bakes"

She puts a stamp on the pie which has the logo of her bakery.
Boiling and baking ofcourse refers to making cakes and pies.





lol I think it is about sex with some black woman, possibly a hooker, i mean, the lyrics do not sound like she is a baker. lol


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