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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 17:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I did post this a little while back (http://tinyurl.com/gpzhr), but no-one seemed to notice, or perhaps care.

But, yeah. I have it on very good authority that we won't be seeing the proposed Singles Boxset until probably 2008. As I said in the other post, it was initially put back to spring 2007, before more recently being shelved for a more indefinite period.

I have no information as to why this is the case. I just know that it is. Which sucks arse.

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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 17:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry to say but that's not news to us. Greg Brooks told a year ago that the box sets will not see the light of day until 2009. Maybe later.

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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 17:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

akindofmagic wrote:

Sorry to say but that's not news to us. Greg Brooks told a year ago that the box sets will not see the light of day until 2009. Maybe later.


Wrong box sets. I believe GB was referring to the near-mythical box sets that have been promised since 2000. News of this singles set came out of nowhere earlier this Spring.

As for the news of 2008, can't say I am surprised nor exactly upset, especially if rumors of a Q+PR album come to fruition. Personally, this singles set sounds like a great project, but if QP can manage to release some interesting product, I'll still be happy. For me, QP could release a DVD set, whether live or GVH3, and I'd be content for a little while longer.

If QP could *just* release something interesting (ie 70s live show, BBC sessions), most of us would forget about long-overdue promises and collections. It's these blatant re-hashes that become irritating.


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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 18:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is new to me. I never heard that the singles Box-set was canceled for this year.

Where did you guys heard that?

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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 19:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zeni's right, akindofmagic. I'm talking about the boxset release that's to contain every song, and every version of every song that has ever been released on a single anywhere in the world. Not the 'full' boxset of rarities that's been promised to us for years upon years.

This singles set had been confirmed as being released for this Christmas, and for me seemed like the most interesting Queen-related release since the Freddie boxset.

I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.

But that aside, new 'interesting' product would offset somewhat the disappointment of this set not being released. But as this set was pretty much at the production (manufacture and pressing) stage when it was shelved, I find it hard to see why any other product would precede its release. Except for a shitty Q+PR album...


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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 20:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bobby_brown wrote:

This is new to me. I never heard that the singles Box-set was canceled for this year.

Where did you guys heard that?


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http://forums.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=35328&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

"Kes: I'll answer key points of the above post with bulletpoints as other methods obviously aren't working.

1). The Anthology boxsets are going to be bookend products. By "bookend" it's meant, "after" Brian and Roger walk away from Queen. This then means the Anthologies are most likely "shelved" until they (Brian and Roger) stop being involved with the product.

2). The singles box "might" not be the "next" thing in the pipeline. "That" could be another retro live concert, or maybe something else. However, the singles box is there, like other things, waiting.

3). "They" are selling merchantable produce to the record buying public. Fans, per se, buy only about 5%-10% of the merchantable produce that is sold. Put your business head on, and tell us what you'd do, if you were them, or the record company? Whatever the "fans" buy, they buy of their own free choice, no guns to the backs of the head enter the equation".

Edit: Here endeth quotation - as depicted by the use of the above (") quotation (") marks.


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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 21:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

get over it stuart hes got u beat,,,,,,,,,,,,


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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 22:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote: 3). "They" are selling merchantable produce to the record buying public. Fans, per se, buy only about 5%-10% of the merchantable produce that is sold. Put your business head on, and tell us what you'd do, if you were them, or the record company? Whatever the "fans" buy, they buy of their own free choice, no guns to the backs of the head enter the equation.



I do not understand why the record companies can not keep both the fans and the general public happy. It is bad enough that Queen Productions ignore fans, but QP seems to enjoy rubbing salt in the wounds by endlessly giving empty promises as well as an obnoxious spokesman/archivist.

Will QP bypass the x-mas season without releasing anything? ... or will QP rest on their laurels and be satisfied with the rehashed Freddie stuff released 4 months before x-mas?


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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 22:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

newcastle 86 wrote:

get over it stuart hes got u beat,,,,,,,,,,,,

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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 22:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohardy wrote:



I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.



All things being equal, I would agree with you. If this were a buffet line of Queen products, I'd certainly take more from the Singles cart than the Q+PR table.

But to me, a Q+PR album signifies something new and ongoing, as opposed to yet another Greatest Hits release. I realize that QP is a company with profits to consider and, as a result, they wouldn't dare "flood the market" with releases. Give me something new and interesting, and a lot of the anger would go away.


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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 22:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohardy wrote:

Zeni's right, akindofmagic. I'm talking about the boxset release that's to contain every song, and every version of every song that has ever been released on a single anywhere in the world. Not the 'full' boxset of rarities that's been promised to us for years upon years.

This singles set had been confirmed as being released for this Christmas, and for me seemed like the most interesting Queen-related release since the Freddie boxset.

I agree with all but possibly one of your points Zeni. If you're saying you won't be upset about this being put on the backburner if the Q+PR album is realised, then we differ in opinion; I would much rather this boxset than that album.

But that aside, new 'interesting' product would offset somewhat the disappointment of this set not being released. But as this set was pretty much at the production (manufacture and pressing) stage when it was shelved, I find it hard to see why any other product would precede its release. Except for a shitty Q+PR album...


Yep, you're right. i didn't see the «singles» word on your statement.

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Posted: 16 Sep 06, 23:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zeni wrote:


I realize that QP is a company with profits to consider and, as a result, they wouldn't dare "flood the market" with releases.


I would think that a rehash release could be put out the same year as a fan release without risking flooding the market.

Does QP think that throwing the fans an occasional bone will compromise the box set?


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Posted: 17 Sep 06, 00:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd rather have some new video releases than having this shit with Q+PR's going on
I want the real Queen. Q+PR isn't, its nothing but two FORMER (Queen) members and some other singer

I say Q+PR is to blame for this excruciating delay of new material, box sets, etc.

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Posted: 17 Sep 06, 00:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe they cancelled the singles' box-set because Greg felt bad that people in QZ weren't willing to do his job of finding worldwide #1 hits.


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Posted: 17 Sep 06, 01:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mike Van wrote:



Does QP think that throwing the fans an occasional bone will compromise the box set?


Here's what I think:
1- There is a finite amount of material that can be released. Whether that is 5 products or 500, we simply don't know. Regardless, QP has to have an idea of how they want to deal with this stuff.

2- Queen has always been controlling when it comes to their material, especially over the music. As much as I'd love several high-quality concerts on CD or DVD (notice I did not say limited internet release in 128K), I can't imagine Brian approving it unless it was up to his high standards. This, in my view, limits what we can expect them to release.

If there is a finite amount of material with rigid standards to be approved, I simply can't picture QP opening the floodgates when re-hashes still manage to come in at #2 in the UK music charts.


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Posted: 17 Sep 06, 06:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I SAW THIS LAST NIGHThttp://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/1117580/Singles_Box_Set/Product.html

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Posted: 17 Sep 06, 07:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

We don't care because we have been lied to again and again... and again... and again.... Until a member of Queen says something, or the box set is in my freaking hands, I will pay no heed to the constant bullshit of the Queen Box Set. It's just like when I was a kid and said, "Where in the hell are the X-Men, Spider-man, Fantastic Four and other Marvel comic movies????" Like then, same as now... eventually they will wake up and figure it out.

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Posted: 17 Sep 06, 17:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

Bobby_brown wrote:

This is new to me. I never heard that the singles Box-set was canceled for this year.

Where did you guys heard that?


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http://forums.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=35328&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

"Kes: I'll answer key points of the above post with bulletpoints as other methods obviously aren't working.

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Thanks for the answer.

I´m sorry for my ignorance, i don´t read the Queenonline Forum because i don´t have time, and i prefer the Queenzone forum.
But, who is this Ken?- Apart from being the moderator, is this information from the inside, or it´s just what he thinks?

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Posted: 17 Sep 06, 18:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bobby_brown wrote:


But, who is this Ken?-


Kes actually. Nobody special. Some bitter old idiot who likes to play god. Definitely not a source for any type of accurate info.

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Posted: 17 Sep 06, 18:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mikahl Cougar Mellencamp wrote:

Bobby_brown wrote:


But, who is this Ken?-


Kes actually. Nobody special. Some bitter old idiot who likes to play god. Definitely not a source for any type of accurate info.


OK, thanks for the answer (even though i got his name wrong: I meant Kes ando not Ken).


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