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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 08:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know there are people on this board that can say some intelligent things about this!!I hope people will judge open-minded, no blind pro-freddie comments please!!How does freddie rate when compared to other popular singers like Bono, Mick Jagger , Robert Plant , ...And only discuss the concert environment please!I want to see your opinions. I think he is good and better than most altough he is not as good as in the studio! I'm a big fan but I think he often lacked range and he could have sung with more guts(more variations)


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 08:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bono is a truly lousy vocalist live; he conveys emotion, but technically, he is a walking disaster.

Mick Jagger is not one of the great vocalists, but he scores quite decently live. He is a more consistant singer quality-wise than Freddie, although Freddie out-sings him whenever his voice isn't bad (which means: most of the time, though far from always)

Robert Plant is one of the greatest live performers ever...when in good shape. Take for instance the intro to Immigrant Song, sheer miracle. But Robert Plant was often out of shape, and if he was, the result would be an abysmal vocal performance.

I would also like to mention Ian Gillan (Deep Purple), who scores as good as Plant when in good shape, and was hardly ever out of that great shape. His overal vocal performance was excellent, and he never sank below 'good' vocal-wise.


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 08:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have to say that I'm not a big live fan :/.. I get disapointed with Freddies live voice almost every time I hear it. I know that it's pretty impossible to sing clear when you're running around like a bat out of hell, but still..
I dont really like Queen live :p


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 09:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

Bono is a truly lousy vocalist live; he conveys emotion, but technically, he is a walking disaster.

Mick Jagger is not one of the great vocalists, but he scores quite decently live. He is a more consistant singer quality-wise than Freddie, although Freddie out-sings him whenever his voice isn't bad (which means: most of the time, though far from always)

Robert Plant is one of the greatest live performers ever...when in good shape. Take for instance the intro to Immigrant Song, sheer miracle. But Robert Plant was often out of shape, and if he was, the result would be an abysmal vocal performance.

I would also like to mention Ian Gillan (Deep Purple), who scores as good as Plant when in good shape, and was hardly ever out of that great shape. His overal vocal performance was excellent, and he never sank below 'good' vocal-wise.
The names I cited were just examples.I want to hear other people's opinions about vocalists they know and they consider to be great compared.Then compare these to freddie.There are of course more singers than these ones(and probably better ones).


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 09:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks for your contribution though, it was the way I want it:-)



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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 09:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree about Plant.'How the west was won' is incredible.I recently purchased it and it is fantastic!!He sings all these song with great range and power and emotion!! After '73 his voice never recovered from what I've heard.


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 09:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

Bono is a truly lousy vocalist live; he conveys emotion, but technically, he is a walking disaster.

Mick Jagger is not one of the great vocalists, but he scores quite decently live. He is a more consistant singer quality-wise than Freddie, although Freddie out-sings him whenever his voice isn't bad (which means: most of the time, though far from always)

Robert Plant is one of the greatest live performers ever...when in good shape. Take for instance the intro to Immigrant Song, sheer miracle. But Robert Plant was often out of shape, and if he was, the result would be an abysmal vocal performance.

I would also like to mention Ian Gillan (Deep Purple), who scores as good as Plant when in good shape, and was hardly ever out of that great shape. His overal vocal performance was excellent, and he never sank below 'good' vocal-wise.


How dare you say that Bono is a walking disaster he is one of the greats and still is any way you always throw jibes at my threads so its paqyback time










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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 09:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I ment payback time


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 10:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

NO ONE , can even come near the energy , the range and the beautyness of freddies voice

Freddie was GOD
Everyother singer , is just an ordinary singer compared to freddie. Live or studio, doesnt matter. Period.

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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 10:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And by the way , bono is a talentless piece of garbage. He cant sing , cant write he should work at 7eleven.

To even compare fred to BONOO!? haha funniest thing ive ever EVER heard.

Plus that garbage is a member of the Illuminati secret sociaety, he acts like this jesus guy and cares bout africa , but the money comes right into his and the elites pockets.




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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 10:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:

NO ONE , can even come near the energy , the range and the beautyness of freddies voice

Freddie was GOD
Everyother singer , is just an ordinary singer compared to freddie. Live or studio, doesnt matter. Period.


thanks for your narrow minded opinion. Freddie was good, but not the best... to be honest I think "specialist" when it comes to vocals will never agree on who is the best, as it is quite impossible to decide.

My favourite singers are already mentioned by ThomasQuinn


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 10:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"specialists"


Micrówave wrote: I would prefer they release a concert of all four sitting at a table just talking about Queen without exerting any kind of energy. Well, maybe Fred can smoke
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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 10:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This should be an open-minded thread where queenfans talk about live-performances. I'm a huge fan of freddie but I agree that he wasn't the best live-singer on a technical level.When one listens to other singers they'll agree. I just want to hear opinions about other vocalists so I know I can check them out and widen my horizons.


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 10:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:

NO ONE , can even come near the energy , the range and the beautyness of freddies voice

Freddie was GOD
Everyother singer , is just an ordinary singer compared to freddie. Live or studio, doesnt matter. Period.


Three cheers for open-mindedness.

Range? Have you heard the Jazz tour concerts? In most of them, Freddie barely expanded beyond octave, because he COULDN'T! And this is before he started smoking. Combine a lack of range with a raspy ashtray for vocal cords, and this is Freddie in most 1984-85 shows. He got a bit better for 86, so perhaps he had quit smoking, if he had already learned about his AIDS infection by then.

It's a fact that more often than not, Freddie was not a great singer live. He was always a great entertainer, but at least half of Queen's concerts had Freddie in only partial voice. He simply did not take care of it. When you've listened to 300 bootlegs, maybe you'll agree. He had his amazing concerts, but just as many terrible ones too.

It's difficult for me to compare Freddie to other vocalists in concert, because there's no other band I have this many bootlegs of. The only one that comes close is Zeppelin... I have about 150 of those.

From 69-72, Robert Plant was a machine... absolutely unstoppable. But then he got pretty heavy into drugs, and his voice went down about an octave by 1975. From late 72 until the present day, Plant has been an up and down singer. But he got that throat operation done after the Presence album was recorded, and suddenly he was in great voice again for the 77 US tour. He still had a few bad shows, but overall, 77 was a much better year for Plant than 75.



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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 11:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There're more great live vocalist,like Steve Perry (Journey) or Roland Orzabal (Tears for Fears).But i have to say that you can't compare one singer with another one.

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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 11:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

-I really like Frank Sinatras voice....
-I don't like Bonos voice...technical it's really weak.
-Altough I don't like the genre or his music I think that Andrea Bocelli has a good voice.
-The singer from electric six has a cool voice too, not a real good one, but it sounds nice.
-Rod Stewart has a cool voice
-The singer from the Killers has a good voice too.


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 11:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

-I really like Frank Sinatra as a singer, great cool, old fashioned sound.

having said that I don't understand why people on here only mention old rock stars from decades ago...There are some good new singers, but you must not expect a second Freddie Mercury....Too me a singer has to have a cool and good sounding voice which fits with the music his band makes...

It doesn't matter if it's not perfect...it's only rock and roll and it certainly isn't art. otherwise you can only listen to opera, those singers are REALLY good. I think that some people on this board overestimate Queen too much. Queen was a great band with a great singer...But will people listen to it 100 years from now on? Maybe a couple of songs, but that's it.


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 11:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't think Freddie's voice was great live because it didn't need to be. When people want to hear good singing, they buy the album. When they want to be entertained, they see a concert. Freddie still could sing fine in concert. He had an incredible voice, very powerful in the 80's. But when he was in concert, I think his main concern was to entertain the crowd which we all know he did an amazing job of.


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 12:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i think if you compared todays singers only Chris Cornell(audioslave/soundgarden) and even at times Scott Weiland(velvet revolver) could be mentioned in the same sentence as Freddie.As far as the singers from 70's and 80's only Steve Perry could compare range wise although the kind of music they played(Journey)was built to protect him from live screw ups and also kinda sucked.Freddie's vocal skills are the reason the Band and this site even exist IMHO.


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Posted: 08 Oct 06, 12:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hmm, he cannot beat Brian Wilson in his early years (the 60's in general.) Later one he found his voice again (due to all his personal problems), especially his solo tours were always great. This is all about Brian Wilson live. He could reach damn high notes in the 60's. In this perspective I like Brian much more then Freddie.

Freddie was good live, especially in the early stage of Queen, because the performance itself (vocally, musically) was the most important by then. Late 70's and 80's Queen were more focusing on entertainment and show too. Freddie wasn't really a singer then (there are exceptions offcourse), but an performer/entertainer. Queen became bombastic, talking about lights, smoke-effects etc.






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