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Posted: 11 Nov 06, 15:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's official, according to Brian's website Queen's Greatest Hits has been named as the UK's biggest selling album EVER with sales in excess of 5.4 million copies. VH1 will list the top 100 sellers next weekend (I think) and hits 2 will be in there as well. Great news and it just goes to prove what great taste us Brits have, well sometimes anyway.

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Posted: 11 Nov 06, 17:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When Gold Collection and Platinium Collection are sold, is this a new album sales or, does it goes to the statistics of the individual albums?

For example:

1 Platinium = 1 GH1, 1GH2, 1GH3 or
1 Platinium = 1 album sold

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Posted: 11 Nov 06, 18:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here is a breakdown of sales researched by a gentleman on UKMix website that suggests the 5.4 million is for GH1 on it's own, if you add the sales of the GH1+2 box set and the Platinum collection you would have sales of around 7 million, which is awesome

Queen - Greatest Hits. Charted November 1981

1981 - 2 (YEC) - 424,000 sold (MW) - 0.3m BPI

Even being released so late in the year it was still the No.2 album of that year.

1982 - 27v (YEC)
1983 - 84v (YEC)
1984 - 47v (YEC)
1985 - 43v (YEC) - 0.9m BPI
1986 - 35v (YEC)

So this album did great on the YEC even with all those various artist albums around.

At the end of 1986 MW gave total sales of 1,828,375.

1987 - 95v (YEC) - 170,000 sold (MW) - 1.8m BPI

In the 20th Anniversary of Radio 1 Chart in 1987, the album was 8th. (The chart runs from 1967 to 1987).

1988 no info
1989 no info
1990 no info
1991 - 25 (YEC) - 3.3 BPI

The 3.3m shipment from the BPI was on 1st January 1992 - so really it is for shipments until the end of 1991. This was the last time the album was certified. Therefore we need to piece together sales from 1st January 1992 onwards.

I have a figure from royalty payments for half of 1992 - that is July to December. It is 152,652 and includes record club sales. From YEC charts in 1991 and 1992 this album was selling hugely following Freddie Mercury's death. With sales from the second half of 1992 we can estimate sales for the whole year:-

1992 - 300,000 sold (estimate) - 34 (YEC)
1993 - 150,682 sold (includes CLUB sales)
1994 - 174,173 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 75 (YEC) - 33 (T200w)
1995 - 147,638 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 100,000 sold (MW)- 28 (T200w)
1996 - 173,316 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 103 (YEC) - 52 (T200w)
1997 - 113,397 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 49 (T200w)

So sales from 1992 to 1997 total 1,059,206. Amazing sales both in shops and through clubs (over 30% of the total) and spending sometimes the whole year on the T200 charts. We also have a figure of 1,300,000 (MW) for sales in the period 1990 to 1997 which does not include CLUB sales.

Add 3,300,000 to 1,059,206 and we get 4,359,206.

1998 - 122,610 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 47 (T200w)
1999 - 156,211 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 101,595 sold (MW) - 123 (YEC) - 49 (T200w)
2000 - 135,813 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 113,000 sold (MW) - 126 (YEC) - 52 (T200w)
2001 - 101,514 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 101,170 sold (MW) - 155 (YEC) - 51 (T200w)
2002 - 67,318 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 63,000 sold (MW) - 31 (T200w)
2003 - 46,653 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 50,300 sold (MW) - 14 (T200w)
2004 - 28,971 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 31,100 sold (MW)

Several trends to note here. In 2002 annual sales dipped below 100,000 (probably for the first time since 1981!!). Part of the reason was the release of the Platinum Collection.

Also CLUB sales start to really decline by about the year 2000. You can see this by the way the REC figures (which include CLUB sales) and MW figures (which don't) become almost equal. The album also starts to disappear from the T200 chart.

Still from 1998 to 2004 sales were 734,090. Add this to our running total and we get 5,093,296 - CRIKEY!

And then to 2005 and a revival. REC sales until September were 61,092, so sales for the whole year I will estimate as:-

2005 - 75,000 sold (includes CLUB sales) - 233 (YEC) - 35 (T200w)

So the album is back and still charting well in 2006.

If the Platinum Collection had never been released, sales would have been higher again.

So adding the figures for 2005 we get a final total of

5,168,296.

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Posted: 11 Nov 06, 19:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nerd alert.


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Posted: 11 Nov 06, 20:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohardy wrote:

Nerd alert.

LOL! My thinking exactly. :)


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Posted: 12 Nov 06, 08:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hahaha, nice post Bohardy.

But, wow, well done with those figures! Interesting stuff.


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Posted: 12 Nov 06, 10:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

wow, 5.4 million is all it takes to be the biggest seller ever in the UK? I'm not sure that's something to crow about. That's like saying "With 12 copies sold, that Night at the Opera thing is the biggest selling album ever here in Bumlick, Alabama."

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Posted: 12 Nov 06, 13:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohardy wrote:

Nerd alert.


indeed....!

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Posted: 12 Nov 06, 13:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry for the nerd like post, I just thought the fans that visited this site might have been interested in knowing that a collection of some of the greatest music ever written by possibly the best band of all time had become the most popular album ever released in the UK, obviously I'll take a back seat now and just keep reading the threads on how big Fred's thingy was or how good looking Roger is/was, nevermind.

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Posted: 12 Nov 06, 15:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lee Watkins wrote:

Sorry for the nerd like post, I just thought the fans that visited this site might have been interested in knowing that a collection of some of the greatest music ever written by possibly the best band of all time had become the most popular album ever released in the UK, obviously I'll take a back seat now and just keep reading the threads on how big Fred's thingy was or how good looking Roger is/was, nevermind.


I really apreciated your post. That´s the kind of thing i like to know.

This is interesting, and i would like to have your help here, or anyone that can help.

About ten years ago, the Beatles were top sellers with their Anthologies Box, and the press made it funny about the fact that Beatles were selling more than Oasis (their "biggest" fans in showbizz). Now, one thing i noticed was the fact the they said that the Beatles have sold about 20 millions CD in 95 or 96( i don´t remember), and to explain the fact they said that when you release a double album each selling album counts as 2 CD´s sold.

Question:

Is this true?

If it is true, it means that the Greatest Hits 2 (vinyl) from Queen should be counted as 2?

So, when Queen sells one Gold Collection they´re only selling one CD or two CD´s (the same for the Platinium Collection)?- because for me it makes more sense to add the statistics to teir original albums, instead of counting them as 1 album sold (this case i think it´s ridiculous because it´s not the true)- but this are three different albums.

But in case it´s a double or triple album, how it is counted in the statistics?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted: 13 Nov 06, 13:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lee, I wasn't addressing you, as I know you were just posting what somebody else had already posted on another forum.

And what you posted was indeed very interesting. But the nerd comment was about the guy that did all the working out of the sales. He's definitely a nerd. No doubt about it. But it doesn't mean that I don't appreciate his exhaustive research and the work he's produced.

The fact I posted in this thread proves that it interested me, as I don't even bother to open about 75% of the threads on here these days as they're simply irrelevant.


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Posted: 13 Nov 06, 17:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Michael Allred wrote:

wow, 5.4 million is all it takes to be the biggest seller ever in the UK? I'm not sure that's something to crow about. That's like saying "With 12 copies sold, that Night at the Opera thing is the biggest selling album ever here in Bumlick, Alabama."


Imbecile alert.

Which albums have sold 20 million in the states, which would be the equivalent per capita?



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Posted: 13 Nov 06, 17:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ummm..."Thriller" sold ten million copies in England alone I believe...

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AlexRocks wrote:

Ummm..."Thriller" sold ten million copies in England alone I believe...


Impossible!

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Bobby_brown wrote:

AlexRocks wrote:

Ummm..."Thriller" sold ten million copies in England alone I believe...


Impossible!

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Thriller is the world's best selling album....

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bitesthedust<br><h6>still qz's gentleman wrote:

Bobby_brown wrote:

AlexRocks wrote:

Ummm..."Thriller" sold ten million copies in England alone I believe...


Impossible!

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Thriller is the world's best selling album....


Possible!

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Posted: 14 Nov 06, 12:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AlexRocks wrote:

Ummm..."Thriller" sold ten million copies in England alone I believe...


Thank you.

I was going to say, there's no way Greatest Hits I outsold THRILLER in any country in the world.
No way, no how.

By the way, TIME MAGAZINE today released their greatest 100 albums chronologically. This shows these lists are all BS! I am listing their albums from 1973-1991. Guess how many Queen Albums?

Achtung Baby U2 Island, 1991
Nevermind Nirvana DGC Records, 1991
Out of Time R.E.M. Warner Brothers, 1991
Phil Spector, Back to Mono (1958 - 1969) Various Artists Abkco, 1991
Ropin' The Wind Garth Brooks Capitol, 1991
Star Time James Brown Polydor, 1991
The Low End Theory A Tribe Called Quest Jive, 1991
Like a Prayer Madonna Sire/London/Rhino, 1990

1980s
Album Artist Label/Year Released
Paul's Boutique Beastie Boys Capitol, 1989
The Stone Roses The Stone Roses Jive, 1989
It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back Public Enemy Def Jam/Columbia, 1988
Straight Outta Compton N.W.A Priority, 1988
Document R.E.M. I.R.S. Records, 1987
Paid in Full Eric B. and Rakim Island, 1987
Sign O' The Times Prince Paisley Park, 1987
The Joshua Tree U2 Island, 1987
Graceland Paul Simon Warner Brothers, 1986
Master of Puppets Metallica Elektra/Wea, 1986
Raising Hell Run-DMC Arista Records/Profile, 1986
Legend Bob Marley and the Wailers Island/Tuff Gong, 1984
Purple Rain Prince Warner Brothers, 1984
Stop Making Sense Talking Heads Warner Brothers/Wea, 1984
The Great Twenty-Eight Chuck Berry MCA, 1982
Thriller Michael Jackson Sony, 1982
Back in Black AC/DC Atlantic, 1980

1970s
Album Artist Label/Year Released
London Calling The Clash Sony, 1979
One Nation Under a Groove Parliament / Funkadelic Warner Brothers, 1978
Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols The Sex Pistols Warner Brothers/Wea, 1977
Rumours Fleetwood Mac Warner Brothers, 1977
Hotel California The Eagles Elektra/Wea, 1976
Ramones The Ramones Sire, 1976
Songs in the Key of Life Stevie Wonder Motown, 1976
Born to Run Bruce Springsteen Sony, 1975
Horses Patti Smith Arista, 1975
Red Headed Stranger Willie Nelson Sony, 1975
Call Me Al Green The Right Stuff, 1973
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road Elton John MCA, 1973


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Posted: 14 Nov 06, 17:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry but I would definetely say that Greatest Hits has outsold Thriller in the UK. You would struggle to find a household in the UK without a copy, and I dont think I could say the same for Thriller.

I think alot of Americans, because of Queens non-existance in the USA, would be suprised at how HUGE Queen are in the UK.


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Posted: 14 Nov 06, 18:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

While I wouldn't automatically trust sales awards, here is an extract from the Guinness Book Of Hit Albums, 17 edition, published in 2004...

" the UK's best seller is Sgt Pepper, with 4.5 Million sales"

So in order for this new award to be valid, GH1 needs to have outsold Sgt Pepper by 900K in two years.

Doesn't seem too unbelievable....


Incidentally, Thriller was at that time held to be the biggest worldwide seller at 47 million, but you would I think find it hard to claim that nearly half of those were US sales.

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Posted: 14 Nov 06, 18:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

NTL wrote:

Sorry but I would definetely say that Greatest Hits has outsold Thriller in the UK. You would struggle to find a household in the UK without a copy, and I dont think I could say the same for Thriller.


No offense, but that's a pretty lousy excuse for your opinion. I get my info from Billboard.

Sort of like saying "Queen is way bigger than Elvis in the UK". It's simply not true.