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Posted: 13 Nov 06, 19:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In WWRY from 6 BBC session we can hear quite strange woman voice after the slow part of song. Many sources say it is from book Siddhartha written by Hermann Hesse. It sounds something like that : "..believed he created God and Brahma. The Buddha rejected Brahmism and mocked at its rituals. As for Brahma, the Buddha didn't deny his existance, but regarded him as a deluded spirit, who imagined he had created the universe." So lets check it, Siddhartha can be downloaded freely here : http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2500 .I was searching for the all phrase and for key words such as buddha, universe and found nothing. I don't think there is such a big difference in translation. Anybody can solve this ? :)

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Posted: 13 Nov 06, 20:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it IS Siddharta, from Herman Hesse. It was one of Brian's favourite books, so I guess it was his idea to put it in there


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Posted: 13 Nov 06, 21:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But can you proove that? Recitet words dont exist in book called Siddhartha (or at least I haven't found them :)

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Posted: 14 Nov 06, 05:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree, the woman does not read from the novel Siddharta. Someone brought that up at some point and other fans just repeated it. We already had a thread about the issue and nobody was able to spot the text in Hesse's novel. If it is true that the reading was accidentally left on the tape from a previous broadcast, it also does not matter if Brian likes the novel or not because it was coincidental.


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Posted: 14 Nov 06, 08:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for the info. Is there any way to search this forum (search function seems to not working) ?

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Posted: 14 Nov 06, 08:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There is a search option at the top of the page right beside "contact us". That works fine


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Posted: 16 Nov 06, 12:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was actually an Al Quieda message to blow up the twin towers. So sad that Queen were oblivious to this and published it.


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Posted: 16 Nov 06, 17:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greg suggests that it's from an adaptation. In which case it should be easy to confirm - can anybody who has read this meisterwork confirm that the quote is consistent with the gist of the book?

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Posted: 16 Nov 06, 19:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No, the quote has nothing to do with the novel. In the novel the Buddha is described as a wise man who is quiet, self -content, polite and tolerant. He does not "mock" or "reject" Brahmanism. However, the historical Buddha did deny the existence of Brahman, therefore I believe that the text on the tape is from an essay on Buddhism and has nothing to do with Hesse.


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Posted: 11 Jun 07, 19:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Admittedly, I am somewhat late to this party. That said, I have heard the spoken portion so many times that I feel confident enough that what is actually said is:

'Hichara believed he could create a god in Brachma. The Budha rejected Brahmism and mocked at it's rituals. As for Brachma, the Budha did'nt deny his existence but regared him as a deluded spirit who imagined he had created the universe'.

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Posted: 12 Jun 07, 08:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

imho this is Brian's finest hour, YV is right no-one's really identified the source of the spoken word piece, it adds a surreal element of mystery, and funny how Brian remarks that the lyrics reflect a life cycle. Freddie's vocal ad libs bring the song to life just as much -- while John's bass lines mesh so perfectly with Roger's thunderous drums. Griffin, and ya can't stop rockin'


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Posted: 12 Jun 07, 10:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was added by the BBC - nobody knows why, but the band found it parculiar and left it so.


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Posted: 12 Jun 07, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It wasnt 'added' at all by the BBC. It was already on the tape that Queen were recording onto. It wasnt uncommon for the BBC to re-use "one pass" tapes. (tapes that had been recorded over only once). Im not sure if it was on the 2" multitrack or on the 2trk master.