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Posted: 27 Nov 06, 23:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Princes William and Harry are Planing an Huge Charity Concert with World's top acts/artists to celebrate their mother's Diana 46th Birthday and to evoke the 10th aniversary of her death. It will be on the new Wembley stadium and promises to break records of any previous charity concerts. Elton John, George Michael and Phill Collins are reportadly taking the guide of the line up selection.

Of Course this is the kind of event that we all want Queen+PR to do, and since 2 of the heads are Queen fans..

see it here :
http://uk.news.launch.yahoo.com/dyna/article.html?a=/26112006/323/princes-planning-huge-wembley-concert-diana.html&e=l_news_dm

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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 01:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thats what we all want Queen+PR to do? I didn't know that Freddie was alive again and John is playing bass. Can you imagine Paul and Ringo going on tour as Beatles+ ? I'm checking every Queen record I've got, and there I see "Queen are:..." and I see 4 names there. 'Nuff said.

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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 03:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jan78 wrote:

Thats what we all want Queen+PR to do? I didn't know that Freddie was alive again and John is playing bass. Can you imagine Paul and Ringo going on tour as Beatles+ ? I'm checking every Queen record I've got, and there I see "Queen are:..." and I see 4 names there. 'Nuff said.

Jan

boring boring boring

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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 04:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What do you mean "2 of the heads are Queen fans"?


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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 05:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jan78 wrote:

Thats what we all want Queen+PR to do? I didn't know that Freddie was alive again and John is playing bass. Can you imagine Paul and Ringo going on tour as Beatles+ ? I'm checking every Queen record I've got, and there I see "Queen are:..." and I see 4 names there. 'Nuff said.

Jan
I'm not crazy about the whole queen + paul BS either, the beatles never did it, zep didn't do it either. Let me ask you something, did the who just come out with an album recently?...did sabboth do it after ozzy left?...how about judas priest and Iron maiden when their famous singers left?...it's not uncommon for bands to do this kind of thing, but I'v never heard of a + sign, now that's just plain silly. Just call the fucking band queen for fucks sake. they replaced freddie and john, and they should just admit it.

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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 12:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would go to this if Queen + PR are going to perform.

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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 12:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

mrjordy wrote:

Jan, what a shitty fucking answer. Period. Paul Rodgers has given Brian and Roger whatever motivation necessary to continue touring as "Queen", whether you like it or not. Freddie Mercury's dead and John Deacon has retired - people (such as yourself) to forget this, as is Brian and Roger just pushed them out of the band and recruited Paul Rodgers, instead. Not the case.

The "Queen was Freddie, Roger, Brian and John / Queen RIP" threads have gotten old. Very old. Jan, it's people like you who try to take the excitement away from a Q+PR show by discouraging the notion as much as you can. Get off this fucking board and this website, if you don't like what Queen is now. This isn't the place for you.


What a predictable response. Menstruation. I fervently wish BOTH sides of this argument would shut the fuck up until they had something useful to add to the discussion.

Which you did not have. Both "sides" should start to let the opposite view go unchallenged - we all KNOW there are differing views, and it's obvious nobody's changing their mind anytime soon.

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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 15:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Let's take a logical perspective to this argument.

From a fan's perspective:

A) You don't like the Queen + PR lineup, but you figure it's better than no Queen at all.

B) You don't like the Queen + PR lineup, period.

C) You like the Queen + PR lineup.

From an artist's perspective:

1) You continue to perform as Queen + PR.

2) You stop performing.

Alright, so categories A and C both benefit from option 1. That is clear and obvious. Since there is no Freddie Mercury, there is no option "3) You continue to perform under the original lineup." Therefore, for categories A and C, option 1 is the best of all possible choices, and option 2 will stand to disbenefit these two groups.

Category B does not like the new lineup, and therefore will not benefit from option 1. However, category B will also not benefit from option 2. They will only benefit from option 3, which is nonexistent. Neither options 1 nor 2 will disbenefit this category either. Therefore, category B is simply unappeasable, no matter which course of action is taken. Therefore, their opinion does not really matter at all.

In conclusion, the only logical choice is for Brian and Roger to continue touring with the Queen + PR lineup.

Thank you very much. I hope this LOGICAL standpoint is the end of any further discussion.

Edit:

On topic: As the majority of Queen fans are thus Brian May and Roger Taylor fans, as well as fans of Queen's catalogue of music, it would make sense that the majority of the Queen community would endorse Queen playing at said concert.


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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 17:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jan78 wrote:

Thats what we all want Queen+PR to do? I didn't know that Freddie was alive again and John is playing bass. Can you imagine Paul and Ringo going on tour as Beatles+ ? I'm checking every Queen record I've got, and there I see "Queen are:..." and I see 4 names there. 'Nuff said.

Jan


Beatles+ for the win ;)

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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 18:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr Jordy, you make me crack up. Thanks for that. And now may you happily be ignored.

And Mike Hunt, you probably remember what Bruce added to Maiden. Paul could never do it and Blaze couldn't either. Bruce had to come back to make it Maiden again, as much as Harris is the leader of the band. They had to change the line up to find their balance in the band. Queen did that too, but way before the first album.
What do you think about a Guns N' Roses with only Axl left from the old line up? Quite a serious thing in terms of songwriting. Depeche Mode without Alan Wilder? Not very much so. Put it into perspective.
From my point of view, it is more than just two Queen guys performing with a relatively unknown singer. Queen was always a band with a distinctive band-spirit, which is violated this way. Maybe like U2 or whoever. Are you just happy with the old chaps performing their old songs (like The Doors) or do you want to see the Queen band with the Queen charisma on stage? Q+PR is just not Queen. Accept it.

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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 19:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jan78 wrote:


From my point of view, it is more than just two Queen guys performing with a relatively unknown singer. Queen was always a band with a distinctive band-spirit, which is violated this way. Maybe like U2 or whoever. Are you just happy with the old chaps performing their old songs (like The Doors) or do you want to see the Queen band with the Queen charisma on stage? Q+PR is just not Queen. Accept it.

Jan


A) Paul Rodgers is not a relatively unknown singer.

B) You either mean to say, "Brian and Roger should never play Queen songs again because Freddie is dead," or "I'm just pissy because they're using the name Queen." Both are utterly ridiculous.

C) No one said this new lineup was Queen, or a replacement for Queen. All they are saying is it's the most they can get out of Queen because their FRONTMAN IS DEAD and their BASSIST IS RETIRED. It's a philosophy called, "take what you can get, when anything better is IMPOSSIBLE."

If you don't like the new lineup, then okay. But if you can't see why many Queen fans do, you have to be retarded.


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Posted: 28 Nov 06, 21:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jan78 wrote:

Are you just happy with the old chaps performing their old songs (like The Doors) or do you want to see the Queen band with the Queen charisma on stage? Q+PR is just not Queen. Accept it.


Why would you ask a question, and then provide the answer you want us to give you? I think you have hit the nail on the head in the first part of the question. Yes, I (along with many others) ARE happy with seeing the old chaps performing their songs. I mean, it's like what Musicman said, seeing old chaps performing their old songs is MUCH better than old chaps not performing their old songs. I am too young to have seen Queen in their original line-up so the opportunity to see Q+PR live was like heaven. It may not have Mercury in the mix, but I wouldn't want the job of carting around a bucket of ashes on stage. That'd just kill the mood.

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Posted: 30 Nov 06, 01:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Jan78 wrote:

Mr Jordy, you make me crack up. Thanks for that. And now may you happily be ignored.

And Mike Hunt, you probably remember what Bruce added to Maiden. Paul could never do it and Blaze couldn't either. Bruce had to come back to make it Maiden again, as much as Harris is the leader of the band. They had to change the line up to find their balance in the band. Queen did that too, but way before the first album.
What do you think about a Guns N' Roses with only Axl left from the old line up? Quite a serious thing in terms of songwriting. Depeche Mode without Alan Wilder? Not very much so. Put it into perspective.
From my point of view, it is more than just two Queen guys performing with a relatively unknown singer. Queen was always a band with a distinctive band-spirit, which is violated this way. Maybe like U2 or whoever. Are you just happy with the old chaps performing their old songs (like The Doors) or do you want to see the Queen band with the Queen charisma on stage? Q+PR is just not Queen. Accept it.

Jan
I actually loved and still love paul diano on the first two maiden albums, but I agree bruce was the true lead singer of maiden, and blaze was horrible. I agree with what you got to say, this whole queen + paul thing isn't queen. it doesn't sound like queen. Just like the new who album doesn't sound like vintage who, but just listen to it for what it is. My only point is that it's been done by many a bands, so it's a bit unfair to say the beatles or zep never did it. They might put out a great studio album as queen + paul, but it's still not gonna sound like queen. I accepted that a long time ago!...