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Posted: 03 Dec 06, 22:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To Queen Fans,
I am wondering about how we should classify Queen with regard to the rock to pop spectrum described in the following New York Times article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/31/arts/music/31sann.html?ei=5090&en=5d74c31cbf3d2d34&ex=1256965200&partner=WEBLOGS&pagewanted=printadherents
Basically, the author is arguing that pop music is every bit as legitimate as hard rock, and that both sides have produced some great music.

Here is my opinion: I would tend to place Queen right in the middle of the spectrum. Although Queen was a great heavy metal band, you also find an amusing tongue-in-cheek sense of humor and a campy, gay sensibility that is totally uncharacteristic of deadly serious white bands such as Led Zeppelin and The Clash. Queen further produced an entire disco album, “Hot Space,” while Freddie Mercury's influences appeared to have been largely black (for example, Aretha Franklin, The Jackson 5 and Lionel Richie). As the article points out, these musical influences fall directly onto the pop side of things. I also pointed out in a previous post that, for a "white" rock band, Queen had an unusually sophisticated sense of rhythm as well.

OK, so I am waiting to hear your views here. I hope to hear some original, insightful and outrageous things! Use the article to help guide you.





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Posted: 03 Dec 06, 23:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rock or Pop?
Both and then some.
They wrote some inventive hard rock songs and crafted top notch pop songs.
I particularly like the fact that they had songs outside the spectrum of Rock or Pop like Cabaret/Vaudeville and Rockabilly.

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Posted: 03 Dec 06, 23:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, I agree that they moved from rock to pop over the years. On the other hand, my favorite songs include "Radio Ga Ga," "I Want to Break Free," "Crazy Little Thing Called Love," "Another One Bites the Dust," "Under Pressure," and "One Vision." These are all pop songs.

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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 06:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pre 1983 - Rock
Post 1983 - Pop


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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 07:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For the most part, rock IS pop.


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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 07:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen were predominetly rock before hot space. They always had popish songs in the 70's though. You wouldnt call 'killer queen' rock, but you wouldnt call it pop either. Same with their pop years, they always had rock songs aswell as pop songs, hammer to fall, under pressure.


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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 08:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Benn wrote:

Pre 1983 - Rock
Post 1983 - Pop


What's with Innuendo;-)?

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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 09:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

US POP = Commercial success
UK Pop = Popular (the people)

I think Queen is both definition, all depends, i mean Pop music is very different now than in old days, and of course they were rockers


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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 09:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They played Rock, that is pop(ular)


I don't count pop as a genre. For example Mozart was pop in his time.


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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 11:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Benn wrote:

Pre 1983 - Rock
Post 1983 - Pop


you saying "the game" and "hot space" are more rock than pop?

interesting....please elaborate


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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 14:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This an easy one to answer.
From 1973 to 1980 they were fantastic
From 1981 to 1991 the were crap



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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 14:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always thought they fall into both categories throughout their career, but when doing something such as an ID tag, I generally switch them from rock to pop for Hot Space and beyond. :-P

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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 16:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

louvox wrote:

This an easy one to answer.
From 1973 to 1980 they were fantastic
From 1981 to 1991 the were crap


Personally, I don't consider 'Innuendo' as crap:)

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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 20:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen is a rock band...Just listen to the live concerts and you know why...

A lot of rockbands made ballads and 'pop'-songs but of course they remain a true rockband...

Just like the bee gees for example will always be a popband, even if they would make 5 rockalbums, Queen will always be a Rock band.

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Posted: 04 Dec 06, 20:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rock or Pop?...what do you mean?...this is QUEEN...this is beyond rocok or pop!

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Posted: 05 Dec 06, 17:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was pointed out to me that "Innuendo" is not crap. I agree it is not. Their best effort since "The game", but between that and Innuendo there was plenty of crappy albums.



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Posted: 05 Dec 06, 18:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen is a combination of all different music genres, which is why they're such a great band.

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Posted: 06 Dec 06, 00:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Queen played songs in many genres, and nailed everyone of them.

Like "The Millionaire Waltz" and "Cool Cat".
Waltz and disco have never been better!




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Posted: 06 Dec 06, 16:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One can argue about Queens studio albums, but having seen Queen+ P.R. in concert and listening to their concert albums, when they perform live they are without a doubt a rock and roll band.

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Posted: 10 Dec 06, 00:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like the idea of consulting their live act to put a label on the band. I listened to the "Live at the Bowl" album a couple days ago and was surprised to hear how they were able to turn material from Hot Space into loud rock songs.

I would vote that Queen was a rock band. It seems that that is what they wanted to be.