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Posted: 22 Dec 06, 16:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/12/al_qaeda_sends_.html

Al Qaeda Sends a Message to Democrats
December 22, 2006 2:28 PM

Brian Ross and Hoda Osman Report:

Al Qaeda has sent a message to leaders of the Democratic party that credit for the defeat of congressional Republicans belongs to the terrorists.

In a portion of the tape from al Qaeda No. 2 man, Ayman al Zawahri, made available only today, Zawahri says he has two messages for American Democrats.

"The first is that you aren't the ones who won the midterm elections, nor are the Republicans the ones who lost. Rather, the Mujahideen -- the Muslim Ummah's vanguard in Afghanistan and Iraq -- are the ones who won, and the American forces and their Crusader allies are the ones who lost," Zawahri said, according to a full transcript obtained by ABC News.

Zawahri calls on the Democrats to negotiate with him and Osama bin Laden, not others in the Islamic world who Zawahri says cannot help.

"And if you don't refrain from the foolish American policy of backing Israel, occupying the lands of Islam and stealing the treasures of the Muslims, then await the same fate," he said.







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Posted: 22 Dec 06, 18:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Of course they'd do something like this. They haven't been able to accomplish anything big since 9-11 and the London/Madrid Bombings, so they've been out of the spotlight. They'll cling to anything they can that can possibly be turned into something that lends them credibility. That's Basic history...anyone who wants to rule anything only rules as long as people believe him to be the ruler...AKA he has credibility. These guys feel that they are loosing face because they haven't been able to pull off anything big, so they do this to try and claim credibility for something they had nothing to do with. Why not? They haven't got anything to loose, and people deluded enough to believe them will believe this kind of circular reinforcement.
They aren't doing themselves any favors by doing this, but it doesn't matter.


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Posted: 22 Dec 06, 22:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"stealing the treasures of the Muslims"

... that would be sand, right? Fuck knows we're not getting a lot of oil.

What a pinhead!


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Posted: 23 Dec 06, 00:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How is it that Al Qaeda is more informed about American politics than 90% of our citizens, anyway?


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Posted: 23 Dec 06, 00:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:

How is it that Al Qaeda is more informed about American politics than 90% of our citizens, anyway?


It's more of a... hobby for them, I suppose. A bit like trading cards or something.


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Posted: 23 Dec 06, 08:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh the citizens are informed, MusicMan. You can't live in this world of 18 twenty four hour news stations, plus 3 hours of news at night on every basic cable channle and not be informed. We just don't give a crap, because we know nothing we say or do or vote will change anything.
They, on the other hand, have a vested interest (or so they think) in things like this, since the numbskulls we elect are effectively the ones pushing the buttons that drops the bombs on all of them. And when they feel the need to give themselves credibility (as this case demonstrates) they'll grasp at anything.
I seem to remember, back when there was that huge power outage in the north east and several states were out of power for a few days because of a plant screw up, an Al-Queada group claimed responsibility for that too. Another one said it was the will of Muhammed that it should have happend. These people will claim anything to give themselves credibility.


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Posted: 23 Dec 06, 12:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No Christmas card then?

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Posted: 23 Dec 06, 14:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

CMU HistoryGirl wrote:

These people will claim anything to give themselves credibility.


I wonder if they don't just say it but truly believe everything revolves around them and the will of their god.



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Posted: 23 Dec 06, 16:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

CMU HistoryGirl wrote:

These people will claim anything to give themselves credibility.


I wonder if they don't just say it but truly believe everything revolves around them and the will of their god.


Oh, I think the ones on the bottom of the totem pole (you know, the actual suicide bombers and things) actually believe it. It's a basic case of brainwashing.
However, I think the people at the top (Bin Laden and company) are just saying it to get the people at the bottom to believe it. They are far too politically savvy and smart to think it's just "the will of god"...they've managed to be in the right place at the right time with the right plan to inflict just the right amount of damage on their targets. You better believe they plan this stuff out to be most effective...it's not just "Allah told us to do this and to do it at this time" at the time...that's what they tell the people at the bottom who are actually doing the dirty work.


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Posted: 23 Dec 06, 23:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I unfortunately have to disagree with your reply to me there, History Girl...I would go so far as to say that yes, everybody has political opinions, but no, most people really don't know how or why.

Think of all the young people today who think that Bush is this evil devil incarnate without even really knowing why. It's almost shocking how ninety percent of Bush-bashers seem to be reading from the same liberal handbook that must have been passed out when I wasn't paying attention.

That's why I like it here. A lot of you hate Bush, but there's always a handful of you who know WHY you hate him, and can help educate all the others. And it's not stupid reasons, like "He invaded Iraq for oil." Of course, when you ask any question deeper than that, like "How?" or "Why?" they merely get defensive and angry, maybe even calling you a "Republican!"

Then there's the legion of people who support Bush, and they never really mention anything that has to do with politics anyway, so it's really not like you can argue with them.

And you mention all those news stations, but how often do you see something that is actually worth seeing on them? Not very often.


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Posted: 24 Dec 06, 06:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:

I unfortunately have to disagree with your reply to me there, History Girl...I would go so far as to say that yes, everybody has political opinions, but no, most people really don't know how or why.

Think of all the young people today who think that Bush is this evil devil incarnate without even really knowing why. It's almost shocking how ninety percent of Bush-bashers seem to be reading from the same liberal handbook that must have been passed out when I wasn't paying attention.

That's why I like it here. A lot of you hate Bush, but there's always a handful of you who know WHY you hate him, and can help educate all the others. And it's not stupid reasons, like "He invaded Iraq for oil." Of course, when you ask any question deeper than that, like "How?" or "Why?" they merely get defensive and angry, maybe even calling you a "Republican!"

Then there's the legion of people who support Bush, and they never really mention anything that has to do with politics anyway, so it's really not like you can argue with them.

And you mention all those news stations, but how often do you see something that is actually worth seeing on them? Not very often.


Good points, MusicMan. There are a lot of people who really don't know why they have the opinions that they do about politics. I'm guessing it's something they learned from their parents, or they are just following what's fashionable at the time. Like right now, for instance, it's fashionable to bash Bush. But like you said, if you ask them why, they can't tell you anything more than the Iraq thing.
As far as the news stations thing goes...there isn't much good on them, but there are about a million of them. And people watch them, which is why they can't give you any in depth opinions on why they hate anything. It's all regurgitated from the news.


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Posted: 24 Dec 06, 09:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

CMU HistoryGirl wrote:

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

CMU HistoryGirl wrote:

These people will claim anything to give themselves credibility.


I wonder if they don't just say it but truly believe everything revolves around them and the will of their god.


Oh, I think the ones on the bottom of the totem pole (you know, the actual suicide bombers and things) actually believe it. It's a basic case of brainwashing.
However, I think the people at the top (Bin Laden and company) are just saying it to get the people at the bottom to believe it. They are far too politically savvy and smart to think it's just "the will of god"...they've managed to be in the right place at the right time with the right plan to inflict just the right amount of damage on their targets. You better believe they plan this stuff out to be most effective...it's not just "Allah told us to do this and to do it at this time" at the time...that's what they tell the people at the bottom who are actually doing the dirty work.


I can confirm that Bin Laden is not a religious man at all. My dad's had to deal with his shit since the '90s, and I've personally known about him since about '97, and before '01, he never personally showed ANY religious sense whatsoever. He was just another power-hungry wannabe warlord.

Oh, and Haystacks:

You're a fucking fascist. And 'all you fascists's bound to lose'.


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Posted: 24 Dec 06, 09:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've always been under the impression that terrorists aren't pious in the slightest. The high up ones are just abusing the idea of religion to get people to do their dirty work, and the low-down ones are just dupes. Or desperate.

Pity really.


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Posted: 24 Dec 06, 10:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

...and the point of this thread is??


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Posted: 25 Dec 06, 00:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't know. This thread has gone kinda "Queenzoney".

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Posted: 25 Dec 06, 05:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles wrote:

...and the point of this thread is??


Haystacks is promoting his anti-democratic pro-Bush fascism.


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Posted: 25 Dec 06, 22:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The least Al Qaida could do is say 'Happy Holidays'.


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<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:

How is it that Al Qaeda is more informed about American politics than 90% of our citizens, anyway?


It's more of a... hobby for them, I suppose. A bit like trading cards or something.


Hmm, reminds me of a certain child in this forum. Damn who could he be?


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