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Posted: 26 Dec 06, 22:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is indeed a very stupid topic but I'm bored: have you noticed that Roger, Freddie and Brian all have some sort of complex about their parents?

Loser In The End, Bo Rhap, Liar, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Token, Strange Frontier ...

The question is: what's the deal with that? Why not Deacy?


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Posted: 26 Dec 06, 23:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I may be wrong but doesn't Freddie sing "daddy I have stolen" or something like that in the 1971 demo?

Anyway, the list goes on: Father To Son, Business, Mother Love...


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 08:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, even if the "father" mentioned on Liar is God, there's still a reference to parents...

"Mamma I'm gonna be your slave..."


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 08:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color="lime">Raf840 wrote:

Well, even if the "father" mentioned on Liar is God, there's still a reference to parents...

"Mamma I'm gonna be your slave..."


Not God, a priest. Although it is specifically forbidden in Matthew 23:9 ("Call no man on the earth your father, for one is your Father, he who is in heaven."), it is the usual way to address a Catholic priest.


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 08:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

This is indeed a very stupid topic but I'm bored: have you noticed that Roger, Freddie and Brian all have some sort of complex about their parents?

Loser In The End, Bo Rhap, Liar, Tie Your Mother Down, Love Token, Strange Frontier ...

The question is: what's the deal with that? Why not Deacy?


Loser In The End: agreed.

Bo Rhap: agreed.

Liar: no. Used in a figurative sense for 'mother' and as a way of addressing a priest for 'father'

Tie Your Mother Down: the highly parents of a girlfriend, so I tend not to agree here.
Love Token: agreed.

Strange Frontier: diagree. Again, figurative usage.


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 09:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 10:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Did roger ever have any problems with his family??


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 10:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you seem very convinced that god is a man?

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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 10:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What about "sire I have stolen", in 'Liar'? I certainly address every priest, bishop, deacon, etc as "father" but never have (or have heard anybody who has) been familiar with the use of "sire" in that case.

Regarding 'Strange Frontier', it could be figurative, but still I think it's more "personal" than 'Let's Get Crazy'; I mean, the latter is more like "Mamma" as in "cutie", while SF's "no more mum and no more dad" is sort of literal, I think...


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 11:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

[x]Kat!e..Cake[x] wrote:

Did roger ever have any problems with his family??


his parents divorced...


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 11:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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[x]Kat!e..Cake[x] wrote:

Did roger ever have any problems with his family??


his parents divorced...


ouch. thats bad. mine are split up.


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 11:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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[x]Kat!e..Cake[x] wrote:

Did roger ever have any problems with his family??


his parents divorced...


how do you know??

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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 12:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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skiqueen wrote:

[x]Kat!e..Cake[x] wrote:

Did roger ever have any problems with his family??


his parents divorced...


how do you know??


It's in Queen: The Early Years; Roger has also mentioned in various interviews that he witnessed scenes of domestic violence in his childhood, if that sheds some light on the matter.


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 13:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

and everyone knows that all of queen's mum/dad songs are about AIDS ;-)

ffs- some people would think Queen were the only band to mention mum/dad in songs
after love and sex mum and dad are probably the next most used words in songs...it's fairly logical


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 14:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=green>Bren<font color=orange>ski wrote:


after love and sex mum and dad are probably the next most used words in songs...it's fairly logical


I think 'the' would be high up in that list too!


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Posted: 27 Dec 06, 14:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fiendishly Yours wrote:

rocks. wrote:

skiqueen wrote:

[x]Kat!e..Cake[x] wrote:

Did roger ever have any problems with his family??


his parents divorced...


how do you know??


It's in Queen: The Early Years; Roger has also mentioned in various interviews that he witnessed scenes of domestic violence in his childhood, if that sheds some light on the matter.


omg thats horrible! domestic violence! poor roger :(


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Posted: 28 Dec 06, 10:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

[x]Kat!e..Cake[x] wrote:

Fiendishly Yours wrote:

rocks. wrote:

skiqueen wrote:

[x]Kat!e..Cake[x] wrote:

Did roger ever have any problems with his family??


his parents divorced...


how do you know??


It's in Queen: The Early Years; Roger has also mentioned in various interviews that he witnessed scenes of domestic violence in his childhood, if that sheds some light on the matter.


omg thats horrible! domestic violence! poor roger :(

please tell me you are NOT serious? ffs - what aboput the 3,000 new cases of domestic violence or child abuse reported every year in the UK?


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Posted: 28 Dec 06, 12:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned 'Good Company'.

That song is Brian's tribute to his dad and for teaching him to play banjo and ukelele.


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Posted: 28 Dec 06, 14:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles wrote:

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned 'Good Company'.

That song is Brian's tribute to his dad and for teaching him to play banjo and ukelele.


No it isn't, idiot. It's about Bengal tigers.


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Posted: 29 Dec 06, 04:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And Brian's Father To Son

There Brian thanks his father or something..