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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 09:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey'all,

back in the day, beginning of the nineties, I remember The Cross albums on CD were seen as extremely rare, right? I remember seeing Mad, Bad and Dangerous To Know on some recordfare for 75euro.

Now, a lot has changed since then. How much would they fetch nowadays?

And yes, in case you're wandering, I'm selling Shove It/Mad Bad etc/Blue Rock. jf.wiersma@gmail.com

But seriously, in times where you can download anything, from Hijack my Heart to Feeling, Feelings, how are those prices nowadays? I also remember ridiculously high prices for the Scandal and The Miracle cd-singles, is that still the case? Shouldn't there be an official b-side compilation to avoid that?

anyway, cheerz,
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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 10:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Shove It is available in stores, the others are still as rare as always. Why they aren't re-issued is a mystery to me. They'd sell like crazy, every major Queen-fan'd get them (especially if they included interesting bonus-tracks or something).


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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 11:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It would be nice to see them re-released with the 12" mixes and B-Sides.

I can't see it selling well though.

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 12:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They will definately NOT sell good enough for EMI/Queen Productions (or any label/company) to make it worthwhile. It's just not marketable.
The only persons that ever bought them in the first place where the hardcore Queen-fans. Even the 'regular' fans ignored the albums back in the day. Now, with bonustracks and all, it would still only be a select part of the Queen FAN base that would buy them - which is never enough for a commercial institute to release ANYthing.

Same with the Strange Frontier and Fun in Space cd-releases. Which were commercial flops. The first (and only) cd-pressing -which was realy modest in number!- is still not sold out today.
The The Cross albums would probably sell even less then those two albums, as they have already been released on cd format.

And 'yes', they are still considered rare and have the same price tag. That price is set by collectors - for collectors a download is totally worthless - they want the original (otherwise they would not be collectors, right?! ;-)

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 12:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Everything can be sold out - you just need to work hardly actually, but it's not the QP case...

Box set with 3 studio albums, 1 CD for bonus stuff, Manipulator, b-sides, outtakes, 1 CD for Astoria show or any other, small edition, selling over QOL or OIQFC (as it originally was with Queen Rocks - The Video and Cyberbarn which I personally could buy only via fan club in those days) only... I think it's possible in some way though no-one will spend their time and money on that job. By the way Shove It was released on Virgin, while others on EMI - it has to do some additional work too.

Shove It is not rare at all, Blue Rock is not so impossible-to-find-damned-CD (even here in Russia, that is strange for me).

Edit: they have outtakes or something like that from HFE and LLB - it can help to sell out too :) 2007 - 20th anniversary of forming the band, the re-union show, Brian and Paul are guests (Brian plays live solo from LLB), hey, man - I'm just a dreamer!

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 13:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The SHOVE IT CD was never hard to get. The BLUE ROCK CD is not so easy to find nowadays, but it was never an expensive album. MAD, BAD & DANGEROUS TO KNOW is another story ...not to mention most of the CD-singles.

Anyway, QP has nothing to do with THE CROSS - and SHOVE IT has nothing to do with EMI (it is a Virgin release), while the other albums are EMI-Electrola.

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 13:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wilki Amieva wrote:

SHOVE IT has nothing to do with EMI (it is a Virgin release), while the other albums are EMI-Electrola.


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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 13:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Only in the UK Serry - in Europe it's Electrola too

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 13:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, that's right. Sorry

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 14:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wilki Amieva wrote:


Anyway, QP has nothing to do with THE CROSS - and SHOVE IT has nothing to do with EMI (it is a Virgin release), while the other albums are EMI-Electrola.

Fine, but it doesn't make any difference.

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 17:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Blue Rock wasn't even released in the UK as for as I can remember. I bought my cassette of Blue Rock when I was in France. The only verions I saw on sale were imports on CD which cost about £22.

I was lucky enough to be MD&DTK on CD at a CD fair for £9.99, after seeing it in RC Mag valued @ £100. (It is original and not a copy as well.)


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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 17:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jeroen wrote:

They will definately NOT sell good enough for EMI/Queen Productions (or any label/company) to make it worthwhile. It's just not marketable.
The only persons that ever bought them in the first place where the hardcore Queen-fans. Even the 'regular' fans ignored the albums back in the day. Now, with bonustracks and all, it would still only be a select part of the Queen FAN base that would buy them - which is never enough for a commercial institute to release ANYthing.


Agreed, otherwise Roger would have gotten this done.

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 17:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jeroen wrote:

Wilki Amieva wrote:


Anyway, QP has nothing to do with THE CROSS - and SHOVE IT has nothing to do with EMI (it is a Virgin release), while the other albums are EMI-Electrola.

Fine, but it doesn't make any difference.


I found that info interesting to read, even if no "difference" was made.

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Posted: 02 Jan 07, 20:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In JB hi-fi there was a section for them.


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Posted: 03 Jan 07, 06:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If I recall correctly Blue Rock was only a German release due to relatively poor sales of Shove It! and Mad Bad and Dangerous to know in the UK. Still worth tracing a copy if you can find it though - nice to have all 3 (smarm smarm) bought as they were released!


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Posted: 03 Jan 07, 17:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I bought all 3 on CD when originally released and listen to them regularly - especially Blue Rock.
Wasn't this album due for release in autumn 1991 for the UK but was shelved because of Freddie's death? I'm sure it's mentioned in 'Queen - As It Began'. I know it's an "official" book and not everything in the book will be totally precise but surely The Cross wouldn't record an album purely for a German release!