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Posted: 04 Jan 07, 06:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was just wondering, 'cause I've been doing Brtitish Cultural Studies at school & I think that Queen is part of high culture, or at least somewhere between popular culture & high culture. Here in Romania the top British bands Queen, Led Zepp, The Beatles, The Who are very close to being considered part of high culture. What do ya think?



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Posted: 04 Jan 07, 06:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

High culture: if it has artistic merit
Pop culture: if it's simply entertainment

Most of the great bands and artists (though not all) have artistic merit. Take Queen, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Bob Dylan, David Bowie, etc., who were all innovative in their own ways (Queen's classically oriented hard-rock, Zep's 'invention' of symphonic rock, Deep Purple's blues-based hardrock (and invention of speed metal), Dylan's protest songs, Bowie's melodies), and thus high culture.

Others would not qualify, regardless of their quality and/or appeal, such as Mud, for instance, who didn't introduce anything new to the music.


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Posted: 04 Jan 07, 19:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

High culture sounds like a pretty elitist term. Entertainment in itself is an art.


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Posted: 04 Jan 07, 19:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:

High culture sounds like a pretty elitist term. Entertainment in itself is an art.


Depends on the definition of 'art'.


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Posted: 04 Jan 07, 21:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:

High culture sounds like a pretty elitist term. Entertainment in itself is an art.


Depends on the definition of 'art'.


This is true. But art is inherently vague. Not only that, but it's also 100% subjective. My art is not your art, and so on.


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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 21:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nowadays there ain't such thing as 'high culture' anymore...Culture is a very mixed thing today. 'high' and 'low' culture go hand in hand today...that all started with pop art really.

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Posted: 08 Jan 07, 13:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

radio_what's_new wrote:

Nowadays there ain't such thing as 'high culture' anymore...Culture is a very mixed thing today. 'high' and 'low' culture go hand in hand today...that all started with pop art really.


Before that. It started in the '20s Weimar Republic. I think that Brecht and his friends should take credit for that one.


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Posted: 08 Jan 07, 16:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

High culture: if it has artistic merit
Pop culture: if it's simply entertainment

Most of the great bands and artists (though not all) have artistic merit. Take Queen, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Bob Dylan, David Bowie, etc., who were all innovative in their own ways (Queen's classically oriented hard-rock, Zep's 'invention' of symphonic rock, Deep Purple's blues-based hardrock (and invention of speed metal), Dylan's protest songs, Bowie's melodies), and thus high culture.

Others would not qualify, regardless of their quality and/or appeal, such as Mud, for instance, who didn't introduce anything new to the music.


I agree with you; I have thought a lot about that and I think that Queen - even if not 'visible' at first sight (like many works of genious which were/are not recognized at first glance but much much later...) - can be counted in some areas definetely to high culture. Musically, it is without doubt that Queen was/is innovative, but I think also, if you actually look at the lyrics and their sophistication, you can say that Queen was a very educated 'bunch of guys':)



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Posted: 26 Jan 07, 14:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote:

High culture: if it has artistic merit
Pop culture: if it's simply entertainment

Most of the great bands and artists (though not all) have artistic merit. Take Queen, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Bob Dylan, David Bowie, etc., who were all innovative in their own ways (Queen's classically oriented hard-rock, Zep's 'invention' of symphonic rock, Deep Purple's blues-based hardrock (and invention of speed metal), Dylan's protest songs, Bowie's melodies), and thus high culture.

Others would not qualify, regardless of their quality and/or appeal, such as Mud, for instance, who didn't introduce anything new to the music.


Led Zep invented the symphonic rock??? What are you talkin' about?


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