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Posted: 06 Jan 07, 19:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Do you think that it´s totally impossible that the concert by Queen after the videoshot was recorded on film?

There was a documentary about Queen (Killer Queen??) that used images from the making of of "we are the Champions".I don´t know if the camera wich shot those images were from the crew or from some television.

But do you guys think that there is some chance that this show was fully recorded? (I think they had plenty of tape to let those cameras rolling.)

sorry if this was already discussed

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 05:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't think they've filmed the show in its entirety - what for? Those "making of" and BBC alternate footages were filmed from the stage, I guess it's not very good to thank audience for their contribution by the show when there are a lot of cameras and cameramen on the stage. IMHO. But who knows...

But of course there is a lot of footages of WATC itself, since it was performed few times (same goes about Friends Will Be Friends perhaps).

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 07:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, but i´m thinking in something that Greg Brooks has said last year in Queenzone about something that was discovered that no one knows about it. The fans don´t know about it and it was never discussed as a possibility.

I allways thought that he was reffering to footage (it makes more sense) and it wouldn´t make sense if it was just a "normal" seventies footage of some concert. We know that there must have been lots of recording concerts that we don´t know about.

But this was a special ocasion, and i don´t rule out the possibility of perhaps two cameras kept rolling and filmed the Queen performance. Of course i´m just thinking of the possibility of it, and i would like to know if this issue was ever brought up in the collectors circle (hey, some guys even swear they saw the Knebworth concert professional shot ; )).

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 07:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They haven't recorded Knebworth, why would they record an impromptu gig for fan club members?

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 09:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't know about the afterparty, but I found an alternate shot of the WATC video on Youtube. Here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EXxqqjTgiU

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 10:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr. Scully wrote:

They haven't recorded Knebworth, why would they record an impromptu gig for fan club members?


That´s the point. For no reason at all!!

But in the BBC version you see other cameras shooting from afar. I mean, the crew was there, the cameras too, so why stop?

But even if some cameras stoped filming, why should all of them stop?
The thing is (and this is only hipothetically), the video director could use it later for editing purposes, like audience shots or band members playing their instruments.

Look, i only whant to know if this was ever being discussed as a possibility. It was a one hour concert and i know some of you guys in Queenzone were there.

So, from your pictures or from your memory, after the video shot and before the concert, were the cameras removed along with the crew?

How long did it take for the the real concert begining?

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 13:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I got word from a very reliable source that at least part of that show GOT recorded - not by the cameras shooting the We Are The Champions video, but by the Bob Harris crew. Remember that he was then making an extensive documentary about QUEEN. It is such a pity that the band didn't wait his editing and took all the footage away from him. Anyway, part of it can be seen in MAGIC YEARS.

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 14:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wasn't it mentioned in Greg Brooks' book too, that Bob Harris recorded the concert for his documentary - like Wilki says?

Not that Greg is reliable ;) :P

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 16:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have discussed this with Jim Jenkins but unfortunately my memory is ****, I don't remember the conclusion :) Maybe Wilki talked to Jim too so it's possible he is correct.

I hope it's not the same situation as with the HamOdeon 75 gig when the BBC crew packed their cameras after an hour because they didn't need any more footage so they missed the second encore...

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Posted: 07 Jan 07, 19:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wilki Amieva wrote:

I got word from a very reliable source that at least part of that show GOT recorded - not by the cameras shooting the We Are The Champions video, but by the Bob Harris crew. Remember that he was then making an extensive documentary about QUEEN. It is such a pity that the band didn't wait his editing and took all the footage away from him. Anyway, part of it can be seen in MAGIC YEARS.


This is good news. Thanks.

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Posted: 09 Jan 07, 16:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bobby_brown wrote:

But in the BBC version you see other cameras shooting from afar. I mean, the crew was there, the cameras too, so why stop?


One simple reason: Budget!
Filmmakers won't bother filming non-requested extra footage. Filming demands a lot of money and time. If Queen wanted to kept on singing, that's their business, but using the equipment and film for taping a concert that had nothing to do with the main video was certainly off-budget unless it was especifically requested and paid by Queen Productions themselves.



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Posted: 09 Jan 07, 19:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

vadenuez wrote:

Bobby_brown wrote:

But in the BBC version you see other cameras shooting from afar. I mean, the crew was there, the cameras too, so why stop?


One simple reason: Budget!
Filmmakers won't bother filming non-requested extra footage. Filming demands a lot of money and time. If Queen wanted to kept on singing, that's their business, but using the equipment and film for taping a concert that had nothing to do with the main video was certainly off-budget unless it was especifically requested and paid by Queen Productions themselves.



You´re right. I never thought of it like that, because in the 80´s things were defferent for them but in the 70´s that was an issue.
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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 05:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

>>One simple reason: Budget!

Union rules would also have played a part - you can ask for as much to be filmed as you like, with whatever budget you can think of, but if the cameramen's union won't allow it, nothing will be filmed.

George Lucas had EXACTLY that issue when filming Star Wars in the UK at that time.......


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's right!