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Posted: 09 Jan 07, 07:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6243323.stm


have you seen this shite?!


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 03:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

WHY is no one commenting on this?!
The story is absurd!


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 04:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm Christian, and my Gran has sort of made me follow the religion a bit more than what my parents may have done, and I do actually follow Christianity to a point, but I disagree with some parts of the Bible because I find it makes no sense to me, because the Lord says he wants his people to be free, make their own choices and be happy, but it also states that homosexuals are not permitted in the world, which to me contradicts itself.

I know that my father and two brothers are Homophobic, and one of my brothers is in the liberals and everything, but it is unfair to "outlaw" them so to speak, they deserve the same rights as us, and I support that.

And having said that, I'm going to go and read that article "properly" meaning, I'm going to go and read all of it.


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 05:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well... I'd say… You're welcome in Holland. Here you can marry if you want. And that makes me proud to be a Dutchman. Not that I'll ever marry a man, but just the fact that we're quite liberal with a lot of things.

Though I'm afraid the a new government with wipe out our right of gay marriage. It's likely that our country will be ruled by Christians the coming four years, and they already told us that they want to take away the right of abortion for example.



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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 07:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I do not understand this law - does it force a church to provide for rooms for civil wedding receptions? Or just for gay weddings? And a hotel owner - does he have to give rooms to all unmarried couples or just gay unmarried couples? Does a Muslim printer have to print flyers for all night clubs or just gay night clubs?


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 10:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Incredible.

I think this quote from the article sums it up nicely -
"It seems to me, in my simplistic way, that what they (the opponents of the regulations) are arguing for is quite simply the right to discriminate and the right to harass. And those arguments are being made in the name of Christianity."

This is plain stupid -
"They require religious organizations to choose between obedience to God and obedience to the state."

Obedience to god? Does printing a flyer for a gay rally mean they plan to attend? Will they, by extension, BECOME gay because they've done this? It's like the pharmacists here who have the right to refuse the filling of birth control prescriptions because it contradicts their so-called faith. We're not asking them to participate, only to do their job. If you're in a profession that serves the public, then, by god, serve the public, damn it. All of it.

Also from the article:
"The regulations threaten to override the conscience and free speech of Christians and others who object to homosexual practice."

But, apparently, it's okay to override the conscience and free speech of non-christians and others who have no objection to homosexual practices.

It's all so disgusting.



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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 11:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i dont even wanna read it, we all know how overpassionate i get XD


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 11:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If she ever kisses you, I'll turn you into a Prince.


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Prince of the land of STENCH! Muahaha (walks off)


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 11:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i think thats dumb!!!!why would someone do that to people!?


you know i'm just joking, right?

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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 11:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is very disturbing.


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 11:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

how is it disturbing??!?!?!?!?


you know i'm just joking, right?

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just kiddin! well how do you know if i'm just kidding? maybe i'm not, but you see, you can never ever know especially with a cow lover!!
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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 11:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

If she ever kisses you, I'll turn you into a Prince.


...


Prince of the land of STENCH! Muahaha (walks off)

Hahahaha, I love that film. (Probably too much)

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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 12:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I am completely against those public gay parades with dudes in speedos rubbing their cock and balls against each other. It's fuckin' disgusting, and it's not a double standard because I would also be against a public parade where you see men groping women just for the sake of celebrating heterosexuality.

Now, when it comes to doing that in private areas, then I say go ahead and do whatever you want as long as it's not public.


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 12:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles wrote:


Now, when it comes to doing that in private areas, then I say go ahead and do whatever you want as long as it's not public.


Hey, what are you doing here? Aren't you supposed to be in Florida fooling around with Goofy?



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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 12:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote:


Now, when it comes to doing that in private areas, then I say go ahead and do whatever you want as long as it's not public.


Hey, what are you doing here? Aren't you supposed to be in Florida fooling around with Goofy?


My flight leaves tonight.


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 12:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

utter crap...


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 14:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is what happens when political correctness meets politcal correctness.

Although not personally religious, I do think religious groups should have a right to practice their religion (within reason) free from fear of persecution.

Likewise, gays should have the same rights. But what happens when the rights of one group conflicts with the rights of another?

I do not smoke, so I do not sit in any smoking rooms. That is my choice. Nor am
I gay - so I do not drink in gay bars. That is also my choice, but I do respect the choices of others.

Personally, I would not stay in a Muslim Hotel, but if I did, I would respect THEIR rules while I lived there, nor would I expect to eat pork pies at a Jewish festival.

I guess what I am saying is that problems only occur when people are both selfish and blinkered and do not care about the rights of others, and I feel that ALL militant groups, whether straight, gay or religious are basically selfish bastards who, while quite happy to complain about their lack of freedoms, are quite happy to trample all over the rights of others.


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 14:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To be honest, and I know this is going to seem kind of silly to some of you, but I believe that the law should not prohibit private entities from practicing discrimination if they so desire.

As long as this discrimination is not actively harmful to a particular group, it should be allowed. Every private institution should be allowed to discriminate in this manner, except in particular instances such as employment, where discrimination can actively harm a group in the aggregate.

Don't get me wrong, I am completely against discrimination. But to me this is rather an issue of what the law should and should not do, and how much regulatory power the government is entitled.

Does this make sense? I may not have gotten my ideas perfect in this quick post. Discuss.


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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 15:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote:


Does this make sense? I may not have gotten my ideas perfect in this quick post. Discuss.


It does make sense, but I disagree. I understand it on some level, however, a printer refusing to print something going against his/her religion should then, IMO, be classified as a Christian Press, or some such thing. Maybe there isn't a clearcut answer for every profession but if people have specific religious rules they live by and cannot interact with the public at large - as is - then perhaps they should not be in that chosen field. Just like the pharmacists I mentioned in an earlier post. If they object to dispensing certain medications then perhaps they shouldn't be pharmacists OR they should work in a Christian hospital. It's not about limiting their choice, but about them working in a field where they can abide by their religious morals and not offend/affect the rest of the community.



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Posted: 10 Jan 07, 17:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

Music Man wrote:


Does this make sense? I may not have gotten my ideas perfect in this quick post. Discuss.


It does make sense, but I disagree. I understand it on some level, however, a printer refusing to print something going against his/her religion should then, IMO, be classified as a Christian Press, or some such thing. Maybe there isn't a clearcut answer for every profession but if people have specific religious rules they live by and cannot interact with the public at large - as is - then perhaps they should not be in that chosen field. Just like the pharmacists I mentioned in an earlier post. If they object to dispensing certain medications then perhaps they shouldn't be pharmacists OR they should work in a Christian hospital. It's not about limiting their choice, but about them working in a field where they can abide by their religious morals and not offend/affect the rest of the community.


Amen!


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