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Posted: 01 Mar 07, 12:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Once upon a time I bought off of ebay this Bonhams catalog (#1793) auctioning Rock and Roll and Film Memorabilia - the auction date being Tuesday 16 November 2004 in Knightsbridge, London.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/carboengine/afmj.jpg

On this page was:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/carboengine/afmjy.jpg

How sad is that to see Freddie's beautiful outfit without him in it?! The description was: "Freddie Mercury's stage costume, 1980s, comprising a bright yellow jacket in military style with multi-buckle fastenings and a pair of white trousers with red and gold piping, lower left leg with pocket, together with a statement of provenance. L8,000 - 12,000 This distinctive outfit was worn by Freddie during Queen's sell-out 1986 'Magic' European tour. It also made an appearance in the video for the 1989 single release, 'The Miracle'."

Why would Freddie want a pocket in the lower left leg of his trousers? I've read that the costume was sold for various amounts, one being L26,290. (I don't know if that is correct.)

The photo was described: "Denis O'Regan: Freddie Mercury, St. James Park, Newcastle, 1986, a large photographic print sealed in UV film and mounted on a thin aluminum panel, signed by the photographer and numbered 1/10, 183 x 122cm (72 x 48in) L500 - 600 The first concert of the band's 'Magic' tour, 7th June."

Wouldn't you love to have that picture?! It differs slightly from this photo/pose http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/carboengine/afmj2.jpg as in this one Freddie's body is more rotated to his left. His white trousers on the top of his thigh above the stripes isn't visible, and the right side of his jacket front isn't as visible. I wondered why I had not seen this pose in the Wembley dvd - it didn't happen there.

Does anyone know what stage of the 'Magic' tour this photo is from? http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c138/carboengine/afmy3.jpg

Does anyone know how many yellow jackets there actually were? There had to be more than one in case of spills, rips, other damage, drycleaning time, loss. Somewhere I read that Freddie, when he was offstage, would sometimes strip down, get wiped off, get dressed in the very same outfit, and go back on stage looking all neat and clean.





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Posted: 01 Mar 07, 14:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's not a pocket, it's just a horizontal seam.

And I expect there were up to half a dozen jackets in each of white and yellow

And the photo looks like Wembley to me.

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Posted: 01 Mar 07, 14:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Penetration_Guru wrote:

It's not a pocket, it's just a horizontal seam.

And I expect there were up to half a dozen jackets in each of white and yellow

And the photo looks like Wembley to me.


It looks like Knebworth to me...

Is it pathetic that we can tell?

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Posted: 01 Mar 07, 15:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bigV wrote:

Penetration_Guru wrote:

It's not a pocket, it's just a horizontal seam.

And I expect there were up to half a dozen jackets in each of white and yellow

And the photo looks like Wembley to me.


It looks like Knebworth to me...

Is it pathetic that we can tell?

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Yes, I think it's Knebworth too. You can tell from the public.


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Posted: 01 Mar 07, 15:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm very sure that it's slane castle.

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Posted: 01 Mar 07, 18:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I'm very sure that it's slane castle.


I'll have to go with your guess. The audience seems to be standing on an incline, and that's what the venue was like at Slane Castle. At Knebworth it was pretty much a flat field.

I'll ask again: Are we pathetic for knowing these details?

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Posted: 01 Mar 07, 20:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What if it was Madrid?? Or Newcastle?? Seriously...does it matter?? He did that pose quite a bit during that tour, maybe on other tours...


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Posted: 01 Mar 07, 20:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's Sunbury. Can't you people tell??


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Posted: 02 Mar 07, 02:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But aren't there grandstands in the back? I remember the lower blocks being quite small in Newcastle, just what it seems like on the pic.

And yes: pathetic. I once tried to convince friends of mine that Roger's pic in Live Magic is from cologne, because I could tell from the floodlight... we should get a life. :-)


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Posted: 02 Mar 07, 03:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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And yes: pathetic. I once tried to convince friends of mine that Roger's pic in Live Magic is from cologne, because I could tell from the floodlight... we should get a life. :-)


I have one... three days a week when my girlfriend is not away to the College she goes to. But for the better part of the week I'm a pathetic Queen-anorak.

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Posted: 02 Mar 07, 05:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


1986 was a funny year for fashion - I'm pretty sure the trousers I wore to see Queen at Slane had pockets in the lower leg. I think I had some snacks in them.

So if it's good enough for me, it's good enough for Freddie!



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Posted: 02 Mar 07, 11:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wembley and Slane! |-)

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Posted: 02 Mar 07, 17:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is from Slane:

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5963/slanept8.jpg

and at the right hand side, the image lines up with the Freddie photo.

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Posted: 02 Mar 07, 17:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh and I've just realised how I know it's Slane. The photo in question of Freddie is in one of those Queen photograph books. I think maybe by Mick Rock but I'm not sure. I flicked though it once about 8 years ago in a shop. This also may be it:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rex-Collections-Queen-Ray-Tedman/dp/1905287127/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_1/203-5346098-2067144?ie=UTF8&qid=1172873323&sr=1-19

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Posted: 02 Mar 07, 17:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Your recollection is as random as your accuracy.

Mick Rock almost certainly took no photos of Queen after the Sheer Heart Attack album, and absolutely none on the Magic Tour.

Secondly, I wouldn't trust any book to caption correctly. See the picture of Van Halen in the current issue of Record Collector...

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Posted: 03 Mar 07, 12:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Penetration_Guru wrote:

It's not a pocket, it's just a horizontal seam.

And I expect there were up to half a dozen jackets in each of white and yellow

And the photo looks like Wembley to me.


If Bonham's says there is a pocket, there is a pocket.


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Posted: 03 Mar 07, 22:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bigV wrote:

vinny2256_ wrote:

I'm very sure that it's slane castle.


I'll have to go with your guess. The audience seems to be standing on an incline, and that's what the venue was like at Slane Castle. At Knebworth it was pretty much a flat field.

I'll ask again: Are we pathetic for knowing these details?

V.


NO!!! We are not pathetic for knowing or wanting to know these details! I think of Queen as one of my hobbies. Have you ever talked to coin collectors and listened to all of their itsy bitsy details about this coin or other? When I watch Antiques Roadshow on PBS in the USA, and the people from whatever city the Roadshow is in for that episode bring in their stuff to be evaulated, the appraisers can look at a vase for instance and talk about when and where it was made and who made it and lots of other details. I think of Queen as a tapestry, and each bit of information just fills in more color. I think it was in Peter Freestone's book where he was talking about Freddie's attention to detail and how when they made the Body Language video and the woman singing in the green sequined dress had to fall into the cake just right because there was only one cake made to fall into; and I thought, "I never saw a cake in that video." But when I looked at it again, there it was - a life-sized cake, and the shot was maybe three seconds.


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Posted: 03 Mar 07, 22:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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1986 was a funny year for fashion - I'm pretty sure the trousers I wore to see Queen at Slane had pockets in the lower leg. I think I had some snacks in them.

So if it's good enough for me, it's good enough for Freddie!

I think snacks in lower leg pockets sound quite lovely. Again, Peter Freestone's book. I believe he said that Freddie never carried anything - his people always carried his stuff, like money; plus early on when he was out and about, his pants were so tight, he couldn't possibly have put anything in its pocket. In one video clip, the speaker said that one time they were in a restaurant, and before Freddie sat down, he looked around to see if anyone was looking, and then he zipped down so he could sit down.


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Posted: 03 Mar 07, 23:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

vinny2256_ wrote:

Oh and I've just realised how I know it's Slane. The photo in question of Freddie is in one of those Queen photograph books. I think maybe by Mick Rock but I'm not sure. I flicked though it once about 8 years ago in a shop. This also may be it:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rex-Collections-Queen-Ray-Tedman/dp/1905287127/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_1/203-5346098-2067144?ie=UTF8&qid=1172873323&sr=1-19

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Thanks! I didn't know there was an amazon.co.uk. I have never seen this book on ebay or anywhere else. So, the first edition of it looks like it came out in 2005, and I see another edition is coming out July 18, 2007, and it can be pre-ordered. Does anyone know whether the second edition is worth waiting for?


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Posted: 03 Mar 07, 23:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bambams-paradise wrote:

What if it was Madrid?? Or Newcastle?? Seriously...does it matter?? He did that pose quite a bit during that tour, maybe on other tours...


I don't think I have seen that tippy-toe, extraordinary backbend pose on any dvds. My goodness, what terrific balance for a man who was how many years old by then? Quite awhile back on youtube there was the Knebworth Magic Tour as filmed by someone in the audience with the images shot from the big screen. There was something like part 1, then part 2, etc. up through the end of the concert, but I never did watch it all. Does anyone know if that backbend pose is on the Knebworth concert, and if so, what "part"? Thanks.


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