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Posted: 05 Mar 07, 16:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi everybody,

I'd just like to know: why does the album "Live Magic" contain nearly only short versions of the songs except a few full version songs? I think that's really a pity to shorten the live renditions of these songs.




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Posted: 05 Mar 07, 16:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's fucking edited.


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Posted: 05 Mar 07, 20:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

because the whole thing didn´t fit in a SINGLE LP... and they didn´t want to release a double album... just a single LP like a souvenier or something.

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Posted: 06 Mar 07, 07:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was the easier way to make money.

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Posted: 06 Mar 07, 10:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Yes, I'm sure it's because they didn't want to release a double album - especially as it would have included a few duplicates from Live Killers including Brian's guitar solo.

Some of the versions are good, aren't they, like One Vision and Another One Bites the Dust, but it's probably best not to listen to Bohemian Rhapsody!




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Posted: 06 Mar 07, 11:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The double LP concept wasn't marketable apparently at that time. Seems strange to me given the popularity of the shows (huge audiences) and the AKOM album, but that's the EMI machine for you folks!

Perhaps they were run by visionaries at the time - too much of the same material all at once would have been prohibitive.

AKOM album
Countless singles from the album
Live At Wembley TV broadcast
Live At Wembley radio broadcast
Live In Budapest TV broadcast
The Magic Years - 3 volumes ft. AKOM material

If only the same people were responsible now.....


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Posted: 06 Mar 07, 15:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

During the second half of the eighties, nearly no double live albums were released. It was more a 70s thing.



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Posted: 06 Mar 07, 18:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like it for the alternate versions of the stuff from the magic tour - its nice to hear, for example, another version of AOBTD, which I actually prefer to the Wembley version, and if Im not mistaken, isnt WATC from Knebworth, along with a couple of others, so it has value as a official release of some of the final Queen show....
The editing is bloody terrible though - Bo Rap being a horrible shining example, lol.


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Posted: 07 Mar 07, 12:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Voice of Reason 2007 wrote:

Some of the versions are good, aren't they, like One Vision and Another One Bites the Dust, but it's probably best not to listen to Bohemian Rhapsody!


Nonsense! Only the opera section is missing... big deal. This is one of the best versions ever. It's amazing to hear 180,000 people sing along, practically drowning out Freddie.



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Posted: 08 Mar 07, 08:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


180,000 people... Jesus...


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Posted: 08 Mar 07, 10:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hehe.. I agree about Bo Rhap. Seems silly having the studio-based opera section on a recording of the show anyway so I don't miss it, and it's a good edit.

I like the album even with its faults. I would have rather seen another song dropped than have so many edits though, and it could have been mixed together a little smoothlier.. they didn't even cross-fade most of the time, it just cuts from one to the other.

I have a friend who is just a casual fan and wanted a good quality document of their last show and particularly WWRY/WATC so I mentioned this album but when he heard those were edited he said "Nevermind, I'll go on pretending Wembley was the last". LOL

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Posted: 09 Mar 07, 09:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The album cover (or is that called 'artwork' these days!?) is one of the best, but that's about it.

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Posted: 09 Mar 07, 11:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

KevoM,

What makes it outstanding to you?


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Posted: 09 Mar 07, 17:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bubbles the driving bunny wrote:

I have a friend who is just a casual fan and wanted a good quality document of their last show and particularly WWRY/WATC so I mentioned this album but when he heard those were edited he said "Nevermind, I'll go on pretending Wembley was the last". LOL


Hahaha... that's hilarious!



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Posted: 10 Mar 07, 14:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Cwazy little thing wrote:

its nice to hear, for example, another version of AOBTD, which I actually prefer to the Wembley version




Agreed.

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Posted: 29 May 07, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A complete rip off in my opinion - just to cash in on then the latest tour! Only saved by extended versions of a few songs.

I never play it at all!!

I heard that it was voted the worst ever live album release.

For such a brilliant live band why do they mess up this live release!!!

Not a patch on Live at the Bowl, Live Killers or Wembley 86.


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Posted: 29 May 07, 12:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Pretty common practice for an artist to select different shows to compile a live release.

The album was named Live Magic and that's exactly what it was. That's also why Live at Wembley was so named.

Most recently I bought Peter Gabriel's Growing Up which was filmed over two days and was excellent... AND IT WAS EDITED!!!

To say a $15 CD was a rip-off is pretty cheap. Now if it was blank, OK. But you paid $15. I think a rip-off starts around $50-$100.

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Posted: 29 May 07, 20:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The only things I find lame about Live Magic are the edited versions of the songs and the WWWRY-FWBF-WATC thing, which they did a lot on that tour. I didn't like that at all, but I do see how they could want to change things up on the tour.


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Posted: 29 May 07, 22:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually, the only time I like FWBF is as a bridge between those two songs (and shortened)...in that regard it's kind of nice since it's an extra song just before you think the show's about to end. On it's own though IMHO it's got to be one of Queen's weakest, cheesiest songs...just embarrassing, and too much of a forced attempt to reproduce the audience participation anthemic-type songs that WWRY/WATC were. FWBF sort of sounds like an unfinished half-song to me, so it seems better when paired with something else.


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Posted: 30 May 07, 10:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yea, FWBF does seem to be an attempt at the group participation/anthemic (Brian's word) thing.

The lyrics are kind of interesting -- very British.

"Red letter day" -- I had to look up. There's other turns of phrase that seems un-Queenly, almost literary.


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