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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 09:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Adam,

I have just returned to QZ for an hour, in between work stuff - as I do from time to time, and I saw your posting.

Part of what you said is why I, and others in the Q camp, generally steer clear of QZ. There are some very intelligent, interesting and greatly informative threads and observations on this site, sometimes, but equally often they are accompanied by nasty personal views which are irrelevant to the main thrust of the piece, but which cannot be resisted by the writer who has a GB axe to grind... STILL!!!!!! r whom has a personal issue with others on this site. They just can't be fair or balanced, and they let their personal views influence constructive comment. This has all been noted by me and others MILLIONS of times in the past here.

Whenever anyone on QZ, like you, mentions my name, it is only a matter of time before there comes the predictable inevitable 'usual standard stuff'. It is really tedious and utterly utterly predictable, but that is QZ for you. It brings out the BAD and NASTY in everyone... including me, that's true. It oes NOT happen elsewhere anywhere like the scale it does here.

Fortunately there are several other sites where the general 'feel' and atmosphere and mentality is friendly and calm and chilled and generally nicer and more pleasant. Hence the migration of several QZ-ers in recent months. Mike Preston springs to mind. He mentioned to me recently that the decline on QZ has been significant and relentless, and sadly I cannot argue with him. MP talks MUCH sense. I don't know why the bad feeling is ever present here with such bitterness and resentment and vehemency (can someone please tell Crezchi what that means... even if i have mis-spelled it).

However, I do look over this site ocassionally because I do see the odd thing of interest which I chase up... such as Sydney 85 footage and other items which actually made it onto DVD as bonus material. Those things are worth my time on here, and of course there are some great people here too (though fewer these days) - some of whom have become friends, whom email me privately. The rest, the dickheads who have nothing constructive or balanced to say, I steer clear of, or wind-up and watch them fly off in fury.

Anyway... yes it was me who listened thru all the Jeff Wayne multitracks and out-takes. I worked with Jeff for 7 years, and was his Archivist. In fact, I was the only person in 30 years to hear all that stuff and I remain the person to have heard every WOTW session and out-take. I also logged every single tape - many hundreds of them! Similar to what I do for Queen.

I put together the rare items on that 6-CD COLLECTOR'S EDITION boxed set, and the pieced together (with Gaetan Schurrer, an Engineer) the never before heard Richard Burton narrative which never made the final master (familiar LP).

I also wrote all those sleeve notes. 30,000 words I think it was.

Jeff Wayne lives near to me in Herts, coincidentally, so it worked well. I took some time off from Queen work at that time... before some smart-arse comments on that.

I listened thru the multitrack masters in order that Gaetan (and Gary Langan, Producer, who also worked on Queen's A NIGHT AT THE OPERA in 75, as a young Tape Op) could re-construct what they needed for the 5.1 Surround Sound mix.

Working with Gary on that was good fun. He's a VERY knowledgable guy, and..... he produced Spandau Ballet's THROUGH THE BARRICADES.. which is one of the most fabulous and beautiful recordings ever created - one of my desert island discs. He told me about how they recorded it and it was totally fascinating.

He also told me about working on ANATO with Queen, and setting up piano mics for Freddie. Wonderful stuff.

By the way...... the 5.1 mix of THE WAR OF THE WORLDS is exceptional, and worth checking out. Gary did a top drawer job (not least because he knew precisely which tapes contained precisely which recordings he need


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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 10:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Interesting! Thanks for posting Greg!


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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 11:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greg, I realise that this might a long shot in asking this, but do you have any idea if Jeff plans to use the newly pieced together Richard Burton narrative in his up and coming shows?

And also, what was he (Jeff) like to work for in comparison to the guys from Queen?

Thanks in advance,

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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 14:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Mr Mecury,

I have replied in detail to this question you asked, in the other thread. OK. I've been uncharacteristically frank too!!!!!!!!


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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 14:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks Greg!!


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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 14:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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REPLY TO A POSTING BY ADAM...

Adam,

I have just returned to QZ for an hour, in between work stuff - as I do from time to time, and I saw your posting.

Part of what you said is why I, and others in the Q camp, generally steer clear of QZ. There are some very intelligent, interesting and greatly informative threads and observations on this site, sometimes, but equally often they are accompanied by nasty personal views which are irrelevant to the main thrust of the piece, but which cannot be resisted by the writer who has a GB axe to grind... STILL!!!!!! r whom has a personal issue with others on this site. They just can't be fair or balanced, and they let their personal views influence constructive comment. This has all been noted by me and others MILLIONS of times in the past here.

Whenever anyone on QZ, like you, mentions my name, it is only a matter of time before there comes the predictable inevitable 'usual standard stuff'. It is really tedious and utterly utterly predictable, but that is QZ for you. It brings out the BAD and NASTY in everyone... including me, that's true. It oes NOT happen elsewhere anywhere like the scale it does here.

Fortunately there are several other sites where the general 'feel' and atmosphere and mentality is friendly and calm and chilled and generally nicer and more pleasant. Hence the migration of several QZ-ers in recent months. Mike Preston springs to mind. He mentioned to me recently that the decline on QZ has been significant and relentless, and sadly I cannot argue with him. MP talks MUCH sense. I don't know why the bad feeling is ever present here with such bitterness and resentment and vehemency (can someone please tell Crezchi what that means... even if i have mis-spelled it).

However, I do look over this site ocassionally because I do see the odd thing of interest which I chase up... such as Sydney 85 footage and other items which actually made it onto DVD as bonus material. Those things are worth my time on here, and of course there are some great people here too (though fewer these days) - some of whom have become friends, whom email me privately. The rest, the dickheads who have nothing constructive or balanced to say, I steer clear of, or wind-up and watch them fly off in fury.

Anyway... yes it was me who listened thru all the Jeff Wayne multitracks and out-takes. I worked with Jeff for 7 years, and was his Archivist. In fact, I was the only person in 30 years to hear all that stuff and I remain the person to have heard every WOTW session and out-take. I also logged every single tape - many hundreds of them! Similar to what I do for Queen.

I put together the rare items on that 6-CD COLLECTOR'S EDITION boxed set, and the pieced together (with Gaetan Schurrer, an Engineer) the never before heard Richard Burton narrative which never made the final master (familiar LP).

I also wrote all those sleeve notes. 30,000 words I think it was.

Jeff Wayne lives near to me in Herts, coincidentally, so it worked well. I took some time off from Queen work at that time... before some smart-arse comments on that.

I listened thru the multitrack masters in order that Gaetan (and Gary Langan, Producer, who also worked on Queen's A NIGHT AT THE OPERA in 75, as a young Tape Op) could re-construct what they needed for the 5.1 Surround Sound mix.

Working with Gary on that was good fun. He's a VERY knowledgable guy, and..... he produced Spandau Ballet's THROUGH THE BARRICADES.. which is one of the most fabulous and beautiful recordings ever created - one of my desert island discs. He told me about how they recorded it and it was totally fascinating.

He also told me about working on ANATO with Queen, and setting up piano mics for Freddie. Wonderful stuff.

By the way...... the 5.1 mix of THE WAR OF THE WORLDS is exceptional, and worth checking out. Gary did a top drawer job (not least because he knew precisely whi


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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 16:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

THE WAR OF THE WORLDS?!?!?!

BY JEFF WAYNE?!?!?!?

THE 1978 VERSION?


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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 21:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This may sound bad, but who is Jeff Wayne? By the way, Greg, I do agree with what you have to say up here about some of the Queenzoners. I know sometimes I'll mouth off up here but it is usually in defense of someone and against the same couple of people that bash others up here. So anyways, thanks for posting! Looking forward to hearing some cool QUEEN stuff soon.


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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 22:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote:

THE WAR OF THE WORLDS?!?!?!

BY JEFF WAYNE?!?!?!?

THE 1978 VERSION?


Best damn musical ever, isn't it!! :) I'm proud of my musical upbringing when I can say I listened to stuff like this as a kid!


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Posted: 19 Mar 07, 22:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote:

THE WAR OF THE WORLDS?!?!?!

BY JEFF WAYNE?!?!?!?

THE 1978 VERSION?


Best damn musical ever, isn't it!! :) I'm proud of my musical upbringing when I can say I listened to stuff like this as a kid!
I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOVE THE WAR OF THE WORLDS

EVERY DAMN SONG, IT'S A MASTERPIECE

=)


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Posted: 20 Mar 07, 01:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greg,

I agree with you on the downfall of the QZ. It is sometimes shamefull to come in here and hear all the bickering, bad mouthing, and flame wars going on. The first and foremost thing this QZ was supposed to do is bring QUEEN fans together.

Instead, the few that really makes sense, like yourself or Mike Preston, strongly resist the urge to post here often, just like myself. Yesterday I posted a question if anyone had a list of Queen songs and the keys they were written in, but the smart alecks of the QZ just replied with crap answers like they are all in the key of E minor.. duh!

It is childish and ignorant behaviour like this is why I do not post here often. I think the last post I made here was at least 3 years ago.

On a side note:
Queen, or Queen + PR, it really doesn't matter to me, as long as Brian & Roger want to continue to make great music and provide us an outlet to hear it, I am all for it. These people in here who think Queen is not the same without Freddie, it is true, but how many bands really stay together for even how long Queen did? Accept the members of Queen for wanting to keep playing and writing, it is their life and they can do with it what they want to. I am sure Freddie would have approved. Good music is hard to come by these days with what is forced down our ears by Big Record Co. The fact Brian, Roger, and Paul are gifted musicians and songwriters are enough for me to want to buy it.

Enough ranting....

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Posted: 20 Mar 07, 22:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have to agree on the downfall of QZ in recent years. You do find a strange atmosphere and crap replies to genuine questions. It has seen better days, but hey, we folk still try to post good stuff for everyone here.

Heck, this is the kind of stuff that I love to hear about. Thanks again Greg. You've shown yourself to be better than those with hatred posts on their mind. Btw, I probably did word my initial thread post to not sound bad to Qz'ers. I really don't know you, so I'll never say a bad word. Some people round here should perk up their ideas and get over things. Some people just get set in their own way of thinking so much.

Adam.

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Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote:

Valensian Sky Surveillance wrote:

THE WAR OF THE WORLDS?!?!?!

BY JEFF WAYNE?!?!?!?

THE 1978 VERSION?


Best damn musical ever, isn't it!! :) I'm proud of my musical upbringing when I can say I listened to stuff like this as a kid!
I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LOVE THE WAR OF THE WORLDS

EVERY DAMN SONG, IT'S A MASTERPIECE

=)


I started playing a bit of it in studio thinking no one would recognise it, and the guys in the control room went nuts!!

Turns out they liked it too.


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