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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 13:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen
Oakland, CA, USA
Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum
July 14, 1980


Accept no substitutes - this is the best sounding Queen audience tape from 1980. Freddie is particularly in excellent form, far surpassing his performances on Live Killers from a year earlier.

Now I'm Here and the encores are missing.


More info here:

http://queenlive.ca/queen/80-07-14


AUD > Master Cassette > 3rd Gen Cassette > CDR (1) > WAV > FLAC level 8


Disc 1:

01. Jailhouse Rock
02. We Will Rock You (fast)
03. Let Me Entertain You
04. Need Your Loving Tonight
05. Play The Game
06. Mustapha
07. Death On Two Legs
08. Killer Queen
09. I'm In Love With My Car
10. Somebody To Love
11. Get Down, Make Love
12. You're My Best Friend
13. Save Me [cut]


Disc 2:

14. Fat Bottomed Girls
15. Love Of My Life
16. Keep Yourself Alive
17. Tympani Solo
18. Guitar Solo / Brighton Rock (ending)
19. Crazy Little Thing Called Love
20. Bohemian Rhapsody
21. Tie Your Mother Down


http://mega.nz/#!Mw9lSS6J!2G11LESHPHP-Lec6jAsB3ZO7o21b6OMN_vVE4MJUORc


Enjoy, keep it lossless, and do not bootleg !



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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 13:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thankyou so much Sir Bob!! Look forward to listening to this one! Cheers!!!!!

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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 13:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks!

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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 14:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you so much Sir Bob for this one. I think i'll have to add you to MSN to talk about bootlegs xD.


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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 14:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks a lot Bobster ;-D

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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 15:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you so much, Sir Bob. i am so looking forward to hearing this - and zapping the mp3 version I had to put up with until now.

By the way, good luck for the opening! I'm sure it will go splendidly :)

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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 16:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks Bob!

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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 20:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Many thanks, Bob. I only have a lossy version of this show, so it's always nice to get an upgrade! :)

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Posted: 08 Apr 07, 21:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color="blue">Mr. Farenheit wrote:

I think i'll have to add you to MSN to talk about bootlegs xD.


Sounds good!



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Posted: 09 Apr 07, 03:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks bob, great recording of great show:-)


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Posted: 09 Apr 07, 04:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanx for this one, Bob. :)


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Posted: 09 Apr 07, 04:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Can you post this as torrent,please?Thank you!



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Posted: 09 Apr 07, 05:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Liar_1980 wrote:

Can you post this as torrent,please?Thank you!


Once it's finished - sure!

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Posted: 09 Apr 07, 08:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Really kind of you to share - as always. Cheers.

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Posted: 09 Apr 07, 16:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thank, sir GH. It's an amazing show.

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Posted: 09 Apr 07, 18:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for sharing. Indeed, the Game tour was probably Freddie´s best.

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Posted: 10 Apr 07, 00:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<h6><b><font color="Black">SebasMercury wrote:

av1dkson wrote:

Thanks for this, i'll convert to MP3 and upload it to other sites straight away :)


Are you joking? NEVER DO THAT!


This probably just a wind up in reaction to Bob's harsh comments.

Of course, sites like The Trader's Den do not demand that flac files not be shared as mp3 on other web sites, and admit mp3's have their place:

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=mp3&match=all&titlesonly=0

...

"The truth about lossy file types is that, under proper scientific double blind studies, a very small percentage of humans are able to hear the difference between uncompressed .wav audio and high quality (192 KBps or higher) encoded lossy formats. These formats have their place. Many people compress their audio recordings to a lossy format for playing on portable players, their computers, or standalone home units. This is an effective method as the audio difference in one generation of lossless to lossy compression is likely to not cause an audible difference. Feel free to compress lossless recordings to whatever format you choose, but never, ever pass on files compressed to lossy formats or lossless files sourced from lossy formats to other traders."

"Simply put, there are NO lossy file types (OGG-Vorbis, MP3, AAC, etc, etc) permitted for trade at this site. This is NOT a negotiable issue, there will be NO subforum for mp3 traders. If you ignore this rule and post lossy sourced material, there are ways to test for this and it will be discovered, resulting in your seed being deleted. Please respect the high quality standards we have put in place, and bring your mp3s elsewhere."

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Posted: 10 Apr 07, 00:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mike Van wrote:


This probably just a wind up in reaction to Bob's overblown preaching.


But look where the preaching has gotten us. Excluding one troll who is clearly another QZ member in disguise trying to stir the pot, we're currently in a topic where the only person who doesn't fully support lossless audio is you.

"The truth about lossy file types is that, under proper scientific double blind studies, a very small percentage of humans are able to hear the difference between uncompressed .wav audio and high quality (192 KBps or higher) encoded lossy formats.


The bitrate is the key factor here. Most people encode mp3s at 128 kbps. This was considered "standard quality" a few years ago, and some people refuse to accept that we have moved forward since then. There is definitely an audible difference between that and a lossless file.

Of course, sites like The Trader's Den do not demand that f;ac files not be shared as mp3 on other web sites. and admit mp3's have their place:


I urge people not to spread lossy copies of something that was originally shared lossless. That doesn't imply that someone can't convert it to mp3 for their own use.

You're fighting a losing battle. You're in the minority, and you know it. Let the community enjoy high quality music, without people like you potentially confusing new users into believing that mp3s are as good as FLACs.



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Posted: 10 Apr 07, 00:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I never said that mp3 is as good as flac, but is clearly inaccurate to label mp3 as a huge step below flac.

The Trader's Den does not make harsh comments towards those who share the flac files as mp3's outside their website.

Last I heard, from YV on the QZ website, is that mp3's can be shared on QZ.

However, I have treated Bob's harsh comments as "polite requests", and have kept my mp3 conversions of QZ related flac downloads separate from from my QueenHub downloads, and have not shared these mp3's with anyone.

There needs to be more tolerance of those who prefer mp3. Few seriously consider mp3's to be trading material, and as such are a limited threat to the "trading pool."

Besides, if anyone uploaded lossy files as flac files (intentional or unintentional) on QZ, I doubt a day would pass before someone ran the files through a sound spectrum analyzer to determine that the files were mislabeled as lossless when these files were infact lossy. I recall that the inadvertant conversion to lossy of Portland 74 by a new, then inexperienced poster, was quickly discovered on QZ and handled in a mostly diplomatic manner.

Bob - if one of your shares is converted to mp3 and reshared, how will you be able to conclude that the mp3 came from your share and not some other simiar mp3 source?







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Posted: 10 Apr 07, 00:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Mike Van wrote:



"The truth about lossy file types is that, under proper scientific double blind studies, a very small percentage of humans are able to hear the difference between uncompressed .wav audio and high quality (192 KBps or higher) encoded lossy formats.


The bitrate is the key factor here. Most people encode mp3s at 128 kbps. This was considered "standard quality" a few years ago


Most of my mp3 files are 192 kbps or higher. In fact 192 kbps is the default rate on my Roxio software. It can be argued that the "standard quality" of mp3's is now higher than the 128 kbps "standard" of a few years ago.

All I am asking is that mp3 be tolerated (as it is allowed on QZ), as spectrum analyzers will readily detect lossy files being being presented as lossless, and because mp3's are not cseriously considered trading material (and as such have a limited threat to the trading pool).

Many other flac sharers on QZ do not resort to threats to stop sharing, and most QZ posters do not insult the intelligence of mp3 users.

I ask you to take their example.

The main reason for the success of flac on QZ is not because of the threats ... it is a postive reaction to the lower generation recordings being shared.

I am not the only one complains about the treatment mp3 users (928 recently got an earful from several posters. I may be the only one who is consistently vocal, but that is because so many posters have been beaten into submission.

Flac is likely the more popular format on QZ, but that does not mean that mp3's can not be shared on QZ.


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