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Posted: 18 May 07, 06:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm a rather new fan of Queen; I got my first album (Jazz) about 6 months ago, and I'm rather fond of 'The March Of The Black Queen', and when read about this song on Wikipedia, there was something about Polyrhythm in this song. Well, in my curiosity I had to check this in the song, and I didn't find it. So now I'm asking you: where is the Polyrhythm in The March Of The Black Queen?

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Posted: 18 May 07, 06:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 18 May 07, 07:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

meaningless topic, don't know what the hell to say, please be more explicit on topics so that we know what to discuss, thank you.

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Posted: 18 May 07, 09:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, I am Dutch.

Alright, this is my question:

'Where's the Polyrythm in 'The March of the Black Queen?'


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Posted: 18 May 07, 09:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Yes, I am Dutch.

Alright, this is my question:

'Where's the Polyrythm in 'The March of the Black Queen?'


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Posted: 18 May 07, 11:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For heaven's sake, doesn't anybody even know what a polyrythm is? Basically, it is two different time signatures simultaneously 8/8 and 12/8. As of where to find it I'm not sure, I'll have to look into that. I'll probably find it eventually.

However, now that you know what a polyrythm is, perhaps those who are common with counting the different time signatures could find it.


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Posted: 18 May 07, 11:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I do know what Polyrhytm is, but I really can't find it in the genius piece of songwriting by Freddie!


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Posted: 18 May 07, 12:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The "climax" (when piano, bass and bells foreshadow the 'Funny' motif while guitar is making some nice licks). It ends abruptly when the ballad bit starts.


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Posted: 19 May 07, 08:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

you never answered my question!


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Posted: 19 May 07, 08:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, you may hug me when I'm finished polishing my clogs. :p

Alright, so the Polyrhythm is in the 'Climax in the song', but I still can't hear it; could it be that it's hard to hear, because the note value is equal (8/8 and 12/8).


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Posted: 19 May 07, 08:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yay!...Clogs!
and the rest I don't understand so I can't help you there....


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Posted: 19 May 07, 09:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

TheGreatKingRat wrote:

Well, you may hug me when I'm finished polishing my clogs. :p

Alright, so the Polyrhythm is in the 'Climax in the song', but I still can't hear it; could it be that it's hard to hear, because the note value is equal (8/8 and 12/8).


Yes, that is probable. When you think about it every eighth note gets the beat, so in all reality it would be hard to distinguish between when a measure ends and another begins. I have a feeling Freddie Mercury was trying to create an "unstable" atmosphere, which isn't all that too uncommon...maybe in rock and roll it isn't so common, but in classical music it isn't rare.


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Posted: 19 May 07, 11:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fred could have been influenced by progressive for such details ... after all 'II' was recorded in August 1973, and the songs were writen between March and July ... guess which album had been released on March '73: 'Dark Side Of The Moon'!

Compare 'Procession' with 'Speak To Me' and the way they're both introduced by a heartbeat-like fade in.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 19 May 07, 21:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Fred could have been influenced by progressive for such details ... after all 'II' was recorded in August 1973, and the songs were writen between March and July ... guess which album had been released on March '73: 'Dark Side Of The Moon'!

Compare 'Procession' with 'Speak To Me' and the way they're both introduced by a heartbeat-like fade in.


Hold up, what in the hell are you talking about? What does this have to do with polyrhythm?


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Posted: 20 May 07, 07:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nothing. I was just making a sidenote about progressive influence in 'II'.


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Posted: 20 May 07, 08:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always thought it was really Funny How Love Is that had the 2 timescales.... the beat being slower than the piano, but works... Listening to the demo of Funny it becomes aparent its a bitch of a song to play... a joy to hear though.


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Posted: 20 May 07, 15:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, so where is the Polyrhythm on Queen II?

In a part of The March of the Black Queen (which part?) or in another part of the total album?


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Posted: 20 May 07, 15:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How about listening and counting?


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Posted: 20 May 07, 15:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's in 'Black Queen', during the part with bells.


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Posted: 20 May 07, 22:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

TheGreatKingRat wrote:

Well, so where is the Polyrhythm on Queen II?

In a part of The March of the Black Queen (which part?) or in another part of the total album?


For God's sake, read the damn thread.

Whoops, sorry. I've been having a rough day.


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