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Posted: 21 May 07, 11:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hello, queen music is really carcterized by the voice of freddie, that's why i think that no queen song can be performed and sound like real queen without him, til today georges michael is to me the one who gave freddie the best tribute in terms of voice i mean.

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Posted: 21 May 07, 12:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, i think Brian's guitar gave Queen as much character as freddies voice.

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Posted: 21 May 07, 13:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think Brian is at least 85% of the Queen sound.

Songs where Freddie doesn't sing (lead)vocals also sound like Queen. Think of songs like Long Away, Leaving Home, Rock It, '39, No one but You and so on.

Also Brian's solo stuff sounds very much like Queen. Especially stuff like Driven by You, Nothing but Blue, Wilderness Child and Business.

Rogers drums are also very special for the Queen sound. The difference between for example Cozy Powell or Eric Singer and Roger playing one of the Queen parts is so easy to hear. Roger has a unique playing style which also adds very much to the sound.

Freddie's solo songs on the other hand don't sound anything like Queen. Except that they happen to have the same lead vocalist.


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Posted: 21 May 07, 14:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think Freddie has more impact than Brian, just because my favorite numbers are Freddie-written...


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Posted: 21 May 07, 14:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

personally, i think Brian wrote the better songs out of the group, on the whole.

Freddie also wrote some of the best, march of the black queen etc. but i do not think he was very consistant( spelling?) and let himself down alot in the 80's. obviously with exceptions.

Brian always wanted to get back to the old rock sound. which is why so many people think he wrote Princes of the Universe.

but on the Whole i think Brian was the best, and roger wqas the worst. just my opinion.

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Posted: 21 May 07, 15:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote:

John wrote some Queen songs - that sound like Queen songs.

I always liked the diversity of Queen.


I agree, but he also wrote alot that wasn't.

Backchat( imho, crap although the solo is pretty damn good) and I think he had something to do with my baby does me and rain must fall. the first of which is also pretty crap and the secind isn't great.

but he did write things like You're my best friend, and i want to break free and if you cant beat them join em.

but he didn't write alot anyway


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Posted: 22 May 07, 10:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

I think Brian is at least 85% of the Queen sound.

Songs where Freddie doesn't sing (lead)vocals also sound like Queen. Think of songs like Long Away, Leaving Home, Rock It, '39, No one but You and so on.

Also Brian's solo stuff sounds very much like Queen. Especially stuff like Driven by You, Nothing but Blue, Wilderness Child and Business.

Rogers drums are also very special for the Queen sound. The difference between for example Cozy Powell or Eric Singer and Roger playing one of the Queen parts is so easy to hear. Roger has a unique playing style which also adds very much to the sound.

Freddie's solo songs on the other hand don't sound anything like Queen. Except that they happen to have the same lead vocalist.

I agree with you 100%. Even songs sung by Brian/Roger have that distinct 'Queen' sound. But I can't believe you forgot to mention "All Dead" which is also sung by Brian. =P
Freddie's solo songs, while good, aren't nearly as good as Brian's songs IMHO. I like Brian-penned songs more on average.


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Posted: 22 May 07, 11:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian's solo records sound like Queen because he wanted them that way. Fred's and Rog's were different for the same reason.

For me, each one was around 1/4. If anything, I think Roger and John actually contributed more than Freddie and Brian.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 22 May 07, 14:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

Brian's solo records sound like Queen because he wanted them that way. Fred's and Rog's were different for the same reason.

For me, each one was around 1/4. If anything, I think Roger and John actually contributed more than Freddie and Brian.


i think you should reads the writing credits lol

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Posted: 22 May 07, 20:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm with FriedChicken and Saif on this one...


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Posted: 22 May 07, 20:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sebastian wrote:

Brian's solo records sound like Queen because he wanted them that way. Fred's and Rog's were different for the same reason.

For me, each one was around 1/4. If anything, I think Roger and John actually contributed more than Freddie and Brian.


I'm sure Freddie solo couldn't sound like Queen even if he wanted to.

And if he wanted to sound like Queen why did he ask some guitar played to immitate Brians style and sound.

Face it, Brians guitar was the major part of the sound.


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Posted: 23 May 07, 18:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

> i think you should reads the writing credits

I mean the SOUND, not the creativity. 'Tutti Frutti' sounded Queen-esque at Wembley, even if none of them wrote it. GnR's 'Knockin' sounds "Guns-esque" even if neither Axl nor Slash nor Duff nor Izzy nor Matt wrote it. And so on.

> Face it, Brians guitar was the major part of the sound.

'Seaside Rendezvous' sounds Queen, imo, and it doesn't have Brian. As a matter of fact, it doesn't have guitars. Same for most of 'Don't Stop Me', and some other tracks here and there, like 'Melancholy Blues'. Likewise, 'Sleeping On The Sidewalk' sounds Queen-esque without Fred's voice or keyboards, and so does 'Good Company'. What do all those songs have in common? Roger and John.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 23 May 07, 20:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John and Roger were the bands foundations, so it's natural that they are always there. I agree that Roger also does a lot for the sound, and John also a bit. But certainly not as much as Brian.

Also it's a bit hard to determine John's contribution to the sound, cause he never had a solo carreer, so we can't compare it very well.


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Posted: 24 May 07, 08:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Indeed, we'll never know for sure. All we've got is our opinions.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 25 May 07, 05:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

John and Roger were the bands foundations.


That's a news flash for me. Since when John founded Queen? (Though I agree on the point that the SOUND of Queen does not rely on only one of them but all the four)


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Posted: 25 May 07, 05:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Foundations" doesn't mean "founders" in this case, but "basic structure" (bass + drums).


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 25 May 07, 11:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

oops, sorry didn't know.
Thanks


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Posted: 25 May 07, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When I saw Queen plus Paul Rogers (it was the most fun I ever had,) I came away thinking, yes!, I have heard the Queen SOUND, but not the Queen VOICE.


Yes, it was a worthwhile experience.
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Posted: 26 May 07, 05:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

...that's exaclty what I've been tryin' to say since 2005 but couldn't find the words. Thanks! As a matter of fact, they were quite simple words.
(*go away muttering* Queen sound...not Queen voice...)


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